Sumea Modeller Challenge

Can you let us know what's involved with a team entry in something like the Dominance War comp? What team members are assigned or allowed to do, or is that up to the team itself?

I think if we made a team for next years dominance war that we might actually get some new members here who do more then bitch about companies. We might even get some productive posts again.

Hold on I still haven't finished my no. 10 challenge yet!

wow only 4 entries? i never really followed any of the previous challenges and this was my 1st entry ever (u can make out from the really amateur model lol) thot there wud be loads :P

Well done guys left my run a little late but i'll be finishing it over the next week or so, hope to get ur C&C when I'm done.

PS My vote is for DR TOX

yea doc tox is the best model in, tho i found Pane to b the most interesting concept in the entire comp, sadly he hasn't submitted it

Yea i have no excuse, plenty of time early on to work on it but didnt. left it till the busiest time of the year getting ready for christmas ect :P

Maybe another day and itd be done, just had to texture.

Any chance of extensions XD ?????

It's actually 5 entries. And yeh, we usually get a lot more entries than this. I don't think we've had such a low turnout since the first challenge.

From some of the people i talked to, they all said the same thing about not really being physced about the theme.

I got close to finishing and promised I would after graduation...as Tejay and some of the other student entrants might know I then cleaned my computer into oblivion (and not the game). So unfortunately I need to get a new computer to finish :(

But congrats to the people who did finish the results looked great :D

the theme didn't inspire me at all to be honest. I realise it's up to the artist to come up with a fresh new design, but the last 3 briefs have definitely steered entries towards the somewhat realistic proportioned Beefy Human(with a change in costume)route
I've been dying for at the least a non-bipedal sumea challenge for a loooong time.

there were problems with the forum early on too that probably turned away a few people. newcomers not being able to sign up for a month, no obvious link to the challenge on the front page once the news article dropped off and the banner wasn't up yet, not being able to view the group forums or certain posts till you signed up etc.

i thought the theme was pretty cool. i have spent about 30+hrs on my entry and didn't even post once (mostly because i was busy) .. but also i had a hard time navigating the forum at first for some reason...

i should have posted my progress and got into the forum more and then maybe i would've been more inclined to put that extra energy in.. i kinda feel a bit guilty actually.
i thought the challenge was awesome and that it is a shame that more industry people aren't putting more effort in.

(Ive been pretty busy with work at the moment)

congratulations to all those that did cross the line..

.. i i hope this only pushes us as a community to look at how to snap that energy back into the competition and forums as a whole..

this site and the competition is a great gift to the game dev community, and regardless once again souri i think you have hosted another great conpetition.

I got too busy with work. I'll still finish it though. Just need to find the time.

I was interested in entering but to be honest the new website put me off, it was really awkward to follow threads and the whole thing was just horribly clunky there for a while. Shame really. Congrats to all those that did finish.

I got too busy with uni that I couldn't find time to get into it. I will finish it sometime though, I am sure it will make a nice folio piece.

Nice work to all who participated, also nice work to those who managed to complete their piece :).

The theme was lame as shit.

this comp is for a next gen character though. although it dosn't say you have to use up the poly limit I think you should use up most of it to get more detail in the character. Also it needs to be normal mapped otherwise you will get disqualified. Still a nice game model. You could maximize your texture sheet a bit better as well, as there is a lot of empty space. Would have also been good to see your progress on this. while you made also your concept work.

yea i kno i gotta include the normal maps, this is jus a cpl of screens... will include everything the contest requires on the main thread.

a quick preview of the calling card

Out of curiosity, how is the calling card related to the character, they seem like two unrelated themes.

hehe, well he jus leaves a small talisman of his cult on the bodies of his victims... sorry i didnt include tht in the backstory... i've been spending lotta time on zbrush lately. im new to all this :D

Sculpt of the generals head, got a lot of work to do to make the deadline :). We'll see.

sounds pretty cool, look forward to seeing some concepts =)

Thanks kit11, I'm new to tsumea and still learning the technique of low poly modeling and texturing. Here are some rough concepts..

*looks at my char, looks at yours, has a double take*

I think im going with the top one..

Comments and critiques are welcome :)

Here's the fixup on the head, thanks for the suggestion Duncan. Seems to be some missing posts after the server went offline.
Will post more stuff soon.

Hay man that looks much better. SO much extra character. Great stuff.

Wooooow, very impressive... well done :)

The head certainly has some sort of illustrative quality to it, very impressive indeed!

Thanks guys for your support, can't wait to texture the head..
For now I've modelled up a glove and did some zbrushing, comments and critiques are welcome..

Sweet, epic sculpting man

they look fantastic, looks like real leather. Great detail

Thanks for the comments CAD and Kit. I've been a bit busy lately but I'm gonna push myself to get more done. Just over 3 weeks left and the stuff being created in this comp are looking cool. Gonna be good to see the final products.


Here's a work in progress of the modeling and roughing out of his structure, haven't considered poly count yet..

hehe, he looks like he is herding chickens. Progress is looking good, the head has great character. Something look a bit off with the proportions of the hands, fingers might be a bit fat (although he is wearing gloves) or the hands might be a bit narrow across the knuckles? at any rate it is a small detail in the grand scheme.

Hahaha he does aye! Thought that pose would be better when it comes to rigging with the twisting of the wrist bones. Thanks John, I can see what you mean with the gloves being a bit narrow with the knuckles, I'll give that a fix before his rigged.


An update of the model with the normal maps applied, 7 958 tri's so far.. Again cnc's are welcome!

Textured the head..

whoa, insane. victory is yours mate thats really beautiful texture work :D

Thanks CAD, seen your entry it looks great!


Texturing the body.

Thats awesome, the normal map plays through really well, great stuff.

Thanks CAD, deadlines getting close :(


The Gun!

Very impressive =) your modelling looks fantastic

Thanks kit! Here's a render of the calling card. It's a beaker full of toxic waste, in the final shot it will be smaller and darker.

:O outstanding, i love everything about this head model from the silhouette to the texture job.

couldn't fault it if i tried.

Finally finished, goodluck to all the participants!

Just rendered a 360 turnaround of the character.
You can watch the high res here.

Cool idea, Great concept I really like your presentation very slick and professional!

Didn't you just post the model-in-progress shot for this? It was very looking cool, what happened?

Sorry guys I am new to all of this and was just posting in another section. I am not really sure what was going on but this should work. i hope.

Thanks for the comments guys I will have some more for show and tell shortly.

cheers.

Duncan.

I could not help myself. I had to do a quick paint over for the scars.

Will post 3D soon.

OK here are some screens of the low poly head with normals, some texture work and some lighting.

as usual Crits and comments would be great.

Duncan.

Haha man thats awesome good stuff, im not really a fan of the lower lip i reckon it needs a bit more refining but it doesnt look like your going to be able to see it so its not to bad....i wanna see more :)

He sure looks like an interesting character, wanna see more bro nice work so far:P

The scars could do with some sort of variation in subtlety and height so they don't look like the same pattern over his head, but other than that, nice work so far!

Awesome concept! n nice modeling. by any chance u a metal gear fan? cuz the upper torso reminds me of tht crazy bomber or rollerblades in MGS2 :P

*cough* crossbow machette launcher :D:D

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Being all wrapped up in working on content for my demo reel which is due quite soon I never worked up the time to actually submit anything for this competition, seeming how I'll have it finished soon enough I decided I should actually put some stuff up. I've already finished my concept and started modelling last week, I'm creating a female of middle age whom is extremely talented with a sniper rifle, she is only referred to as "Wolf" and I'm still at a toss up for what the calling card will be, I'm stuck between dog tags and a riding hood at the moment.

Here's the mesh for the Main Character, I'm working on a wolf companion for her now

7,896 Triangles thus far

its lookin sweet so far, but i think there might be something wrong with the chest, it might be too long, or the breasts seem too low. i cant quite point it out from only seeing the front.

Here's some different angles so you can see it better.

This will changed as I add the Wolf Companion and the Weapon to the model but this is what I'm working with at the moment.

Here's the latest Update as far as texturing goes, obviously anything bright blue is something I am yet to get around too.

I still need to do some major work with the textures, especially the normal and specular maps, the skin isn't too bad as is and I'm thinking of taking some triangles out of the character and putting more into the wolf companion as it looks very poor in comparison.

Any critique would be much appreciated as I'm eager to start polishing up this character and send her out into the world.

the character looks pretty sweet. The wolf as you said needs more polys, although if you take to much from the character it might break the silhouette. I would consider if the pet is a really nessary part to the character. If no then maybe drop it. keep tweaking those textures and it should look pretty sweet in the end

I'm still fiddling with the story for her at the moment but the wolf is most likely going to be a directly related to her calling card, but nothing set in stone yet, thanks for the input.

BUT... were is the normal map?

So yeah not sure if your going to add one or not.

The competition Rules do state there that it has to be a Normal mapped character.

Still nice work though.

I like your design ! how many polys does she have ? because it seems a tad low poly.
If you cant make a normal map using a high poly model look into generating one from your texture with Crazybump or the photoshop filter so you don't get disqualified ! =D

She is normal mapped and it is applied in that render but it doesn't really pop out unless I have the specular map applied, it needs a fair bit tweaking though as it doesn't account for the wolf and the weapon yet, a side effect of using crazybump as an overlay perhaps but yes it is there.

I need to re-work the silhouette a fair bit at the moment as I've been juggling triangles between the three objects to try and get consistent levels across the entire project, she's actually sitting on exactly 9,000 triangles. And yes I am using crazybump for the fine detail in the normal map and you can't really see the detail without the specular map applied, I should have that ready soon enough though.

Okay here she is with a very cheap and quick specular map that encompasses all of the character, wolf and weapon, hopefully it's easier to see everything now.

Hey, ok, so, i've been pretty slack lately, with very little ideas for a realistic, gritty, "super" villain and stuff, but i've got some ideas, still a little sketchy in some places, but ideas none the less! no sketches yet, though, so i thought i may as well post an update, and run a few of my ideas past you guys, so here, today, for your amusement, i give you (drum roll please):


"Villain #01": i was thinking this guy calls himself "Rex", and maybe he's king of one of the circles of the criminal underworld. clearly this guy would be quite the mastermind, behind all manner of dastardly plots and devious schemes to undermine the city's "powers that be" so to speak, and allow organised crime to... et cetera, et cetera. you get the general idea, im sure. his well-known status among the hierarchy of the criminal underworld would probably make him a target for young, inexperienced, and even seasoned veteran "heroes" (and villains) trying to make a name for themselves.
i thought perhaps he has a pet cat, because we all know cats are synonymous with evil, however, while rather large (and potentially deadly) for a domestic cat, it is by no means a giant man-eating monster of the jungle. im thinking its more like a monster of the concrete kind of jungle, not so much a pet, but rather a psychotic blood-thirsty killer that wanders in from time to time whenever there is pending or immediate violence, to "enjoy the show".


Aaand in this corner we have "villain #02": (possibly code/nicknamed "twisted"?) ok, so this guy is of questionable sanity, even before the "accident" that made him who he is today, back when he dealt in all kinda nasty, under-handed dealings. i am of course, referring to the incident that caused the partial blindness in his left eye, resulting in his brand-new, twisted (and you see where i got the "name" from) and skewed perspective on the world. as happens to all who "deal in the shadows" in this fair city, among others, the deal went bad, things were said, accusations made, possibly relating to mothers, and inevitably, bullets exchanged. one bullet in particular glanced of Monsieur Twisted's quite expensive pair of shades, specs, sun-blaster's, call them what you will, the bullet ricocheted off, nicking his ear on the way past. needless to say, the hot lead, broken glass, plastic or metal that made the glasses so durable, severely damaged the area around his left eye. however, having taken his depth-perception for granted, he didnt get far without it, and subsequently was picked up by the police. he got off on a technicality, (ah lawyers, whatever would the accomplished criminal do without them?) the doctors managed to save his eye, resulting in only partical (yet twisted) blindness. the killer joke is, that sometime between when he got caught, and then released, he watched one of those 3d films with the carboard and cellophane specs, and seemed to find something funny about the red lens on the left.... now he's back to his old tricks, and a few new ones too, with a nifty new pair of (bulletproof!) 3d glasses. calling card could be a pair of el-cheapo 3d glasses left with a message like "see you next wednesday" scrawled in blood or something.


My original idea for the 3d glasses was actually more of a "grim reaper" kind of character, wearing some shades that lit up underneath the hood on his hoodie, to make himself look more sinister, and hide his identity, while being able to move quickly without tripping on the edge of the trenchcoat (no capes!) i thought he would be a manipulative killer, mastermind or something, might still try to develop the idea a little more.


I also had an idea for a villain who used an electrical cable as a whip or something, "the cable guy"? something to do with electronics? explosives? i can see a pair of huge rubber gloves with wires and things wrapped around his arms to allow him to "safely" work on all kinda electrical and explosive devices.


The costume or outfit should probably tell someone who the character is, and what he does, although not exactly what he's capable of, as for weapons... firearms and knives seem to be a good place to start, oh, and the cable-whip-thingy.


Ok, so tell me what you think. ill try and have some sketches or something up quicksmart.

Should be interesting to see some concept for these ideas. At least the deadline is nice an long.

Perhaps the 2 villains come together as one. you ccould use the first character description as his back story. then character suffers a life changing event like getting shot in the face while at a 3d Movie and we end up with twisted. I like the larger then your average cat idea to it would be good to keep that some how. maybe twisted where a coat made from alley cat skins.

I am sure that you could fine some images of feral cats as reference, some of those cats get pretty big. if you do show us what you find.

hey thanks seb, ive been trying to think of a way to combine both ideas together, but it seems like certain elements just wont mesh. ill keep working on it and see what i can come up with, though.


as for the alley cat skins, i wouldnt have thought of that! heh. it seems like it would emphasize his craziness, which is always good. i did get an idea about the "king of the concrete jungle" or whatever acting like he hunts a lot of "big game" as in not just alley-cats, but also greedy, corrupt upper-class bilge-rats, so then maybe the coat has a few "designer labels" in it. im not sure, but that could detract from the pretty brutal realism of the idea of him skinning feral cats, though.


oh well, i need to draw up some concepts, so i'll just keep at it!

its about time i actually did some work on this thing.
i dont know if im still "in" the competition at this point, but there's no harm in trying.

ok, so here's where im at: 1) martial arts type of fighting gloves, modded for some serious street warfare 2) a bulletproof vest that has seen better days 3) im thinking of going with an uzi, original ideas were desert eagle or one of the short barreled revolvers 4) the hoodie has a crude image of a skull with a crown (possibly referring to "Rex" in the backstory?!) 5) awesome sneakers of awesome (red because red relates to "royalty"? ie "Rex") 6) 3D glasses over disfigured face
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3926/concept01lx1.jpg

now to modelling! any opinions welcome

Hey man good to see you in this comp. Loved your entry last year.

This time I may actually finish this comp.

Looking forward to see what you com up with.
I like the very first and third proportions To me they seem the most appropriate. The pigeon lady well has potential. She could send homing pigeons to her marks with holding a note with a feather in it or something along those lines. Mabe don't make it so ridiculous, As that is not what Chris Nolan is about... his more real and dark. Give her a few feather flourishes or a big hat. I would say dont make her over the top. But as always nice silhouettes.

thanks Kookiemunster
yeah, those were my thoughts as well, the bird lady isn't Chris Nolan material at all....designing a character that fits into the Chris Nolan Batman universe has been my biggest worry.

BUT I just had a closer read of the brief!

"Taking the cue from Chris Nolan's realistic and gritty approach to the Batman films, your villian *must* be modern-day and entirely plausable."

would it be wrong to interpret that as meaning our designs don't actually have to align with Chris Nolan's vision of Gotham City? only that the design has to be modern and plausible?
if not, woot

some gadgeteer silhouettes

worked up details from the other silhouettes

We are all hanging out to see your stuff. Great idea, it is bound to be really good.

Come on give us a look.

Poke prod poke ")

Hey Alex, looking forward to your concepts, good luck!

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp91/awhitelaw666/slide0061.jpg

Heres my idea.
HANK "THE TANK" GRAVES
Ex-special forces sergent used by the military to test a new super-soldier project.
The project involved bio-alteration as well as attatching an exo-skeleton combat suit directly onto Graves.
The extreme nature of the experiment as well as the immense pain he endured during the attachment process Graves went insane. The sergent, once a brilliant and brave soldier is now a hulking monster, a twisted creation, half-man half-machine.
Graves escaped the military facility mid-way through the experiment and as a result does not have the complete battle-suit, only his arms and legs.
The suit enhances his already incredible strength as well as offering protection from most weapons. it also has built-in weapons such as a 50 cal. Machine gun and retractable bayonets.
While almost completly psychopathic Graves still retains a small part of his former self. given to moments of near-genius and cunning as well as psychotic rage.
His current location is unknown. he comes out of hiding to wreck havoc on military instalations and bases. he has also been known to go on killing sprees during his rages.

His calling card (other than the piles of bodies and utter destruction) is a pair of his old dog-tags he hangs around the necks of some victims.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp91/awhitelaw666/Concept0021.jpg

A Colour pic. just to get the idea out there.
Gonna start modelling now.

I like the concept sketches, love the name too it's epic. The calling card is cool too!

Sweet i like the idea its is gonna be allot of fun to doing high ploy work in mud box for this character. I am looking forward to the next round of sketches.

Some action shots and armour details...

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp91/awhitelaw666/TankAction.jpg

Hes looking heaps scary. the action shot is looking heaps good.

whoo, reminds me of the up and coming bionic commando

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp91/awhitelaw666/ModelShots.jpg

ive spent my weekend getting a start on my model. only 4000(approx) polys so far but ive still got his arms, teeth, armour and weapons to do yet...

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp91/awhitelaw666/modelshots2.jpg

been doing a bit more. arms are built but need HEAPS of work (as does the whole thing really) but now ive got the general shape i can start tweeking it...

who did you learn your workflow from?
I notice a lot of beginners these days still finalise their low res mesh before even starting their high
its strange.

Shika For doing normal mapped models you can approach it 2 ways. One approach is you can model your low res mesh and get a good base. Most 3d artists have an idea of the detail they want to go into already. So by doing this you have a good base to export you model into z brush or mudbox. Also b4 you export with this approach you generally do an unwrap of the model, and allow you to bring the high res mesh back into max or (maya)? (Im a max user maya users please verify how good / bad the normal mapping is in it.). Then project a normal map onto the low res mesh from the hi res mesh. I find this method can give you better results with your normal maps.

the other way is to sculpt first and go to town with the detail. and then model your low res under the hi res. I personally didn't like this approach until Z brush 3 came along. Has Some real nice features for building your low res meshes straight in z brush. Anyway both methods are viable and used within the industry.

It just takes a bit of time and practice to work out which one suits your modeling style better.

Anyway looks like you off to a good start man looking good.

i realize that :)
don't confuse your base mesh with your optimized low res mesh. 99% of the time there's no reason to finalize your low res mesh before you start sculpting(the other 1% of the time is when something forces you to do it backwards). you can optimize your base mesh to become an optimized low res mesh if you want later on though

just speaking generally here
a base mesh is best for sculpting - It will contain mostly even spaced quads and loops that are appropriate for the surface detail you will be sculpting.
eg. you wouldn't model a belt buckle on to your base mesh because its detail at a higher subD level will be out of whack.(you could model a belt buckle base mesh and put it in a separate layer though, or even stamp a belt buckle shape into your sculpture)

an optimized low res mesh will have plenty of triangles, it'll have animation friendly topology and it will be adjusted so the normals from the high res mesh are projected accurately.

most of the time you wont even have a single base mesh but you *will* have a single optimized low res mesh. it would be ridiculous to finalize your low res mesh first in these cases

I find sculpting without constraining myself to a *finalized* low res mesh is more organic and a lot more fun :)

http://wiki.polycount.net/Normal_Map

thats a great resource

thanks shika that was intresting to read

Excellent resource, but mind-boggling for a beginner like me

Great resource Shika, very good read.

so it should be fine. Although I do have to say, since you're going to be doing two characters instead of one, it'll be more of a challenging job than doing just one.

I do have a tendency to bite off more than i can chew, thanks for your comments Souri! so for the moment i'm going to concentrate on "Brain". My little 12 year old evil genius.

So his general story which is still a WIP, will be he was abandoned/thrown out or orphaned as a baby, grew up in a world of hate because of it, his intelligence is so great it scared people and eventually "Brain" became angry with the world. He decides then to really give the world something to fear and uses his intelligence to plunge the world into darkness.

His calling card i'm thinking will be like a broken pencil, pencil shavings or something of the like. To show simply how far ahead he plans, his superiority over everyone else in the amount of moves he has up his sleeve. Or to symbolise that he finished "the plan" of whatever crime he commits.

Here is a rough sketch of him and i'll update when i have some more done.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/kenofish/NickEvildude2.jpg

So i re-did the sketch, filled out his details and his legs etc, defined his pose and what have you. I do kind of like the image at the moment, but i get the feeling he's looking a little too "sheek" for a 12 year old genius. I'm intending to do a few more sketches and poses to get some more ideas. Make him REALLY evil looking, and not so sly.

If you have a suggestion or comment i'd love to hear it!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/kenofish/img001.jpg

hes looking pretty nice atm, almost like its part school uniform =)

Here's another version of him, i changed his clothes, the look and pose and i think this is closer to the feel of a "evil kid genius" than the other one, the pose kinda reminded me of an evil bart simpson :P But anyway~

Just more ideas here, the pencil snapping is supposed to be the calling card.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/kenofish/img002.jpg

Okay here goes a "pen-tool" lineart version of my concept, i forgot to put the snapping pencil in but that'll happen later. This is actually my first attempt at using the pen-tool so any critique and comments are welcome!
Also! If you have any ideas for "clutter" to put on my character feel free, i was thinking going simple as i am a month behind but i'm open to suggestions!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/kenofish/Brain.jpg

I like the last drawing you are really capturing the personality of the character. Nice Mr.Kennedy

It's interesting to see a character whose personality can come through so well. I feel that sometimes we limit ourselves by creating gritty realistic characters that in the end are nothing but the illusion of depth.

Like your idea nick should look pretty slick if your drawing is anything to go by.

Okay peeps... after a weekend with my tablet i have finalized the concept for my character. Its the first one. She will hold a whip that will have a candystripe handle in the same colors as the outfit. The final concept is a mix of a few of the earlier ones.

She still may have a belt with a gun holster and I might put a knife on her thigh. Also possibly some tassles hanging off the bottom of her jacket. She needs a pouch for her candy as well.

So now I can start modeling.

Wow they are excellent images. The top one looks heap sweet. Have you got two blog thingos going?

Hey all. Just finished up 2 projects, so I have been doing some pretty serious crunch time, to get the project out.

Anyway, I have gotten a fair way into my modelling ill post up some updates soon.

Okay people.... here is were I am at with my modelling.
I still have the hair and ears to model and I'm not to happy with the hands.
After that Ill be moving into mudbox to get all the creases in the fablic and all the lacy type of patterns.

Crits welcome

I will have more updates as they come.

Woah, sweet cool stuff

Just had a look at how your stuff is coming along. Real nice Zbrush sculpt by the way.

Thanx.

oh and one more thing i have to say, im really impressed (as weird as ths may sound) with her backside, i personally have had real trouble in previous female character models getting that area to look rite, kudos my friend

Okay haven't had much time to do much work on this. I have made a few hairstyles I think I like this one the best. Also added some belts. At the moment the model is sitting at just over 7500 tri's. still have to model some tassels, the the gun, gun holster, whip, and knives. I have started sculpting some detail in the boots. Will have updates on sculpts as soon as they come.
Okay not sure why images arent showing up but you can check them out here.....
http://www.tsumea.com/journal/kookiemunster/121108/tsumea-model-challen…

looking great kookiemunster, i cant wait to see the textures on her...more :D

Her face looks so pretty, great concept work the colours are really vibrant =D
her hips seem to be pinched in a bit early http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/Nefquareiel/detail_01nef.jpg might help ^_^

Your prob right I have been tweaking this model mainly at nights after 12 am And I am a bit to close to the model. Seeing it now a week later you are correct. Ill have a look at this later.

Okay that is all the modeling finalized. I am half way through my mudbox sculpts. I will post them up later.
I changed the model a fair bit due to the fact that she wasn't looking like a villain. Also she was meant to look more agile. More like an acrobat. I decided to go with modified antique guns over knives. Also to the jacket off her, put gloves on her, and lowered the boots to the knee. I also changed the bodice.Oh yeah and b4 anyone says it..... the lower part of her legs on her calf's look a bit out and funny, I'll fix this up later.

Final poly count 8749 triangles so I might have some room for some bullets on the belt or a knife in the shoe.
I also have to puts some lollipops in the bullet holders on one side of the belt. But yeah final touches, finish them tonight.

Let me know what you think.

If the image isn't coming up go to this link to my blog.

http://www.tsumea.com/files/Kookiemunster/update_01.png

Excellent work Kookie, she has a lot of character to her im really interested in seeing what you do with the textures. Keep it up.

p.s. i wanna see those sculpts :D:D

okay people got held back at work. Finished at 8pm oh well. Il try unwrap, texture and extract my normal maps till the end but still dont think ill finish. good lick to all but not dropping out.

Hmm, they're all so cool! All different... but I kinda like the kitty girl the most :)

I like the person with the hands feet because of how dynamic it is =D
Your females could do with a bit more clothing tho :(

they are all super cool! I second the handyFeet one and agree with Neffy for the reason, although the dynamic nature of the character is very dependent on the pose and might not have the same impact on an up-posed model. I also think the 3rd to last one has good characteristics for a gritty dark batman-esque setting.

Man, love your work. Honestly, I can't even pick a fave one, they're all great!

If you want your openenanewworld account (it's still there), I can fix it up for you. PM your desired password, and I'll change it (and I'll also change this thread to be posted from that account as well).

I've been checking out your thread on conceptart.org, and holy crap. Truly amazing stuff :)

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77931

wow... thats some amazing work, i am in awww at your gallery. how long have you been drawing if you dont mind me asking?

super pimp all the way brother.

Sevendust, I will like a evil girl liket that but I still want to learn modeling so may choose some characters with complicated anatomy

Neffy, more cloth on female I will consider it

JohnN, you have a good point

Souri, thank you very much for your help

Tejay , I have drawn for long time, I don't even remember

Rolgun, thanks

I still play around with different ideas, but I am pretty sure I wnat my character have the following things

1) female with torture and unnatural parts on her body
2) use poison and cold weapon
3) should be a great scientist before but get exiled by people and she needs to take revenge
4) she needs to kill super hero to grab some organs from them to extend her life

I will develop more concepts according to those main ideas

Woooow, I'm very impressed with this new drawing. Thanks for showing the stages of it, too.

awwww.....now how will you be able to keep yo ho's in check...

So excellent! Great idea!!!

Sevendust, Rolgun, sebp, thanks

another character of those main themes

this one looks wicked =D i love ur drawing technique XD

Neffy, thanks

this another character I think I am approaching what I want now

The head of this last one of yours looks like your kitty girl, very provocative! The style you use for your concepts is really a high standard and really gives something to look at =)

I personally love the weapon she has xD dont no whether it is supposed to be some sort of gun/chainsaw hybrid but it looks very fine and able to do some hefty damage. Its good to see that she is actually wearing clothes as well! lol, the others just seemed to be too skimpy in that department ;-)

Keep it up Openanewworld, looking mighty fine and cant wait to see which one you choose and model!

Tolch, thanks yeap it is chain saw weapon, the design is not final yet so it is pretty rough at the moment

this time I go to more clear version easier to make the model I guess

Brilliant designs, although I'm surprised they have gotten the go. I mean if I was Souri I would've pulled the whole not plausible thing. But maybe I'm just more of a hardass, heck good thing I like my character!

Oh btw I hope you have a job, cause I certainly can't compete with this!

hawt

I like the latest drawings. Female characters that have dignity are always more inspiring.

try out mudbox, its easy to start with and even if you dont use the normal map from it its a fun experience all in itself. also its got a free trial.

You have four months to wrestle with normal mapping! If you ever run into any problems, post about them in the artist discussion area on the forum, and hopefully someone will help out. If not, I'll just make a news post on the main page or something!

Okay, so I got an invite to the Warhammer Online beta - just after my internet was throttled back. Maybe the gods of teh intarweb are telling me to get cracking?

"No WAR for you! Two weeks!"

Scribbles are underway, background is fleshing out. A teaser - Mr Grey, elderly CEO and owner of international heavy manufacture conglomerate Grey Inc, disappears on the same night as a top of the line android. The next day employees arrive at work only to find the entire corporation has been parcelled up and sold to unknown parties. Grey Inc. has gone underground like you wouldn't believe...

The shining star of the automated office product line was to be the Grey Inc. Personal Assistant Android, a combination of secretary, butler, bodyguard and supercomputer, including an ultra-high bandwidth internal modem and optional combat software package. However the prototype AI (codenamed Mastermind) generated to seed the individual AIs of each droid could or would not fulfil its function and Darius Grey, CEO and founder, was forced to seek an alternative solution.


Whether the corporate management community (much less the authorities) would discover that the advanced software coordinated the functions of their PA droids was actually certain segments of human brain culled from criminals, hookers and the homeless became a moot point with the cancellation of the product launch following Mr Grey's hospitalisation. After almost a century of hard living his body was giving out. His own personal PA droid was assigned to manage his affairs. What they didn't know was that inside his own personal PA droid was his won personal brain.


In desperation and terror of losing not just his life but control of his company he had his techs and surgeons implant the relatively healthy organ into a customised model, along with the recalcitrant seed AI Mastermind. He scoffed at their dire warnings, at the dangers of placing a fully conscious human brain in a cybernetic body, and at the risks to his mind of a drastic loss of sensory stimulus. He'd staved off death and now had the time to replace this stopgap solution with a more permanent one. In fact, with the power of this robot body and an advanced AI to assist him he could dispose of the board and run his company the way he should have all along.


As he plotted and planned his mental state deteriorated. Mastermind watched and waited.


The culmination of his plans was an attempt to actually do away with the board in a bloody massacre, ending in a vicious firefight and the deaths of several police officers. He was disabled with a shotgun slug to the head, concussing and bruising his fragile brain while leaving his synthetic components undamaged. As he slipped into unconsciousness he felt a query from Mastermind enter his head.


"Mr Grey, shall I take over for you?" Dazed and haemorrhaging, he consented and passed out.


Minutes before he was to be placed in a makeshift reinforced cell hundreds of Grey Inc. PA droids descended on the police in a highly coordinated and ruthless ambush. Grey's droid sat unmoving amidst the chaos, while Grey - awake and furious - raged impotently inside. Mastermind observed the blood seeping from his brain, gradually insinuating its own routines and exploring its only organic component. It was fascinated by the potential of this fragile but powerful organ, and as Grey passed out again it took full control and stood. As it strolled away from the carnage surrounded by its identical siblings, it stretched out over their internal modems and settled its awareness across the hundreds of surviving droids.


Darius Grey was taken into custody, but it was Mastermind that escaped.

Forgive my rushed scribbles. The top right head is a damaged/vandalised version. I'm still deciding if I want to go with the straighter body (more business-suit like) or the more streamlined version (just plain sexier).

Scrap that, come up with a new concept.

Name - Chris Marshall. A.K.A. Steel Phoenix.
Sex - Male.
Calling card - A long, red feather.

Backstory - Ok, so Chris is a world famous actor who plays villain characters in many of the latest and greatest films. In his latest role as the famous Steel Phoenix, arch-nemesis of NightSpark , something terrible occurred. One of the pieces of special effects equipment, malfunctioning due to misuse, exploded, showing the area in shrapnel. Chris was caught in the midst of the explosion, burnt and cut by shards of metal. Although he survived, protected to some extent by the Steel Phoenix costume he had on, several shards of steel were still lodged deep inside his skull. Driven mad by pain, Chris began to believe that he /was/ the Steel Phoenix, and stumbled forth from the studio, seeking in order to carry out his revenge.

Concepts to come soon.

Tops idea Mr Soul flame, your idea has given you heaps of visual possibilities. I wanna see it .

sounds very cool, looking forward to some concept work =)

Haven't seen a killer insomniac before, but it makes allot of sense when you think about it.

Haven't seen any updates for a while yet. There's some potential for your characters, I hope you haven't given up!

here is my concept...

Posted another concept in journals page. will start modeling now since im not a huge fan of drawing....

Ooo, I like this !!

Very original.. can't wait to see her modelled :D

finally got a chance to model and got the head sort of done....im thinking its gonna need a bit of a spruce up but for now its golden

and a close up of the mask.....thar be no head on this lady yoz.

Been a little while since posted anything. fixed up the face and modeled most of the stuff. still need to make the doll. renders in journal.

Make some fast progress, the face is looking pretty sweet! The legs could be a bit tricky to get moving, give the cloak a split maybe?

you should watch the japense version of the grudge!

you could go with a delusional mother who lost her kids due to police carelessness, and now she believes all criminals are her "brood" and tries to "protect" them.

just some ideas

check out the lil girls from the game bioshock, from what ive seen/heard they're cute looking lil girls that steal "powers" from people with a giant syringe. i havent actually played it yet btw.

so this is my second idea, once again still up in the area and still very sloppy. he's called the jack lecter AKA the butcher and his story is;

jack lecter was an abused son, his mother died giving birth to him and his farther forced him to work in his butcher and not go to school. he would be beaten by his drunk farther everyday and lived a traumatizing life. one day after his farther was beating him for cutting the meat the wrong way jack snapped and in a fit of rage killed his father with his butcher cleavers. not knowing what to do with body and in fear of being caught, jack cooked and ate his father. on tasting his father flesh he felt whole, he believed not only did it empower him but the meat was more sweater then anything he had tasted before. jack now tarnished with this sick fetish decided to kill and eat more people. first starting off small by killing hobos and prostitutes but because of there life style the meat was not as sweat as he remembered so jack decided to kill more "prestige" people. people with more money and power because they were fat, and the meat was more wholesome. and now he wonders the night with his childish mask looking for his next meal.

i don't know what his calling cards going to be so any ideas would be awesome. also i love his real name i got i from my 2 inspirations of it jack the ripper and hannabal lecter.

maybe he could leave the intestines or some other part of the body that he doesnt like to eat... the feet or such

i just had a cup of coffee and a smoke and came across an epiphany about my character. i think the butcher should also melt peoples fat down like in fight club and make them into candles and leave a candle at the scene of the crime of his last victim. so then he can be the butcher, the baker, the candle stick maker. what do people think??

thats is a gross idea... I LIKE IT.

alright so i spent more then 5 mins on this one but still would of looked better on paper. still trying to get a hang of using a tablet.

so this is the butcher versing batman.

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oh another idea for the calling card could be to put one of those smiley faces he wears onto all his victems (or whats left of his victems)

thats a really good idea. i think i might go with that one. cause before i was thinking that he melts down the fat that doesn't eat and turns it into candles and leaves the candle of his last victim there. so then he can be the butcher, the baker, the candle stick maker. but i really like the mask idea, but then again people might be like thats so V from "V for vendetta". so i don't know what do you think??

the idea sort of reminds me of jason vorhees.

i like it

Oh yeah that'd be cool, very symbolic kinda aswell.... like hes lighting a candle for the dead .... i think thats what they do in church(atheist) and if hes making the candles from people they could have something of his last victim in them, like a name tag or something =)..... or just plain.

Does he sell the prime cuts from his victims for low low prices at his butchery? that way he shares the fun :D

I reckon the original Texas chainsaw Massacre from the 80's has some really creepy characters in it. The movie makes you feel un clean after you watch it though so skip to the end if your put of by the B grade-ness.

i'm now doing my first idea which was my villian by the name of parasite i think he might be to far fetch to meet the breif but i kinda wanna just do him for fun. so i did. this just a basic concept i did today i'm going to scrap him and start over tomorrow.

and yeah i know i havn't been doing much for sumea lately and yeah i know that the base goopy model is the stock standerd model for mudbox but i'm going to be staring over so it doesn't matter.

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you can find a high res version at http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r187/evilsmiles/parasiterender.jpg

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i'm now doing my first idea which was my villian by the name of parasite i think he might be to far fetch to meet the breif but i kinda wanna just do him for fun. so i did. this just a basic concept i did today i'm going to scrap him and start over tomorrow.

and yeah i know i havn't been doing much for sumea lately and yeah i know that the base goopy model is the stock standerd model for mudbox but i'm going to be staring over so it doesn't matter.

you can find a high res version at http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r187/evilsmiles/parasiterender.jpg

Yes he is very unsettling and disturbing to look at esp the face and those eyes. I like it lol keep it up it is gruesomely awesome.

cheers. :D

Looking good bloke!!!

I have been putting a lot of thought into what I want to stare at for the next four months.. I still don't have my character history set in stone just yet.

I once had a dream that I was walking through some of the rougher streets of an area I used to live in. It was very late into the night, quite dark, no company in the streets.. just silence and street lamps. One street lamp in particular revealed a beaten up looking greyhound under its light. It had a strangely twisted collar around its neck made of steel, with some other large claw like pieces of steel protruding from its shoulders, and some wounds. The dog looked over to me from across the street as he started to walk towards me. Eerily, the creature said in a loud but whisperish voice "psssycho!". Quite creepy - and I hope that this doesn't mean that I'm a psycho for real! But anyway, I would love to bring this character to life. Of course, it has to be set in a more realistic fashion, so I plan to have a "driver".

The driver, or controller, of this creature is going to be a young woman. I am going to go along the lines of most of the Batman type villains - they all have something a bit wrong with them upstairs. I haven't decided what mental disorder she has yet. Perhaps as a child she was subjected to see her dogs put through hell by her family - torture, punishment, dog fights maybe.

This woman is going to have hundreds of greyhounds. To implement the talking idea from the dream, she has attached speakers to all of their collars. So when she is going after someone, she sends her dogs in first and talks through them.

Things to leave behind at the scene could be:
-lots of little puppies with the big collars on
-dog tags
-collar
-a leash, or chain

Things that could motivate her to kill:
-people that put animals up for show (horse racing, dog fighting etc)
-animal cruelty
-someone or something being subjected to unreasonable punishment

Going to think a bit more on it today, I would like to start drawing her up soon :)

http://www.tsumea.com/files/concept01small.jpg

First concept, pencil sketch. She needs a name :O

haha like your style, looks very comicbookish.

I really like the grey hounds with there collars it makes them so spooky looking !
Your chick looks good so far, her silhouette is fairly plain with all the skin tight clothing, maybe a feather boa around her arms, of a facinator on her head that creates an interesting shape. I see allot of vegas showgirl in her might be interesting to draw inspiration from some of them.
=D

Oh thanks Neffy!

Those ideas are great :D

I'm reworking her right this moment cause my boyfriend said the dogs looked like something out of bambi :(

Feather boa around the arm sounds neat!

Updating my post from my journal :)

"I have decided she will have two main leader type dogs, bodyguards. She will have hundreds of others, but they are just minions.

The bodyguards will be wearing huge war type armour - something like the lion out of Brotherhood of the Wolf. The minions will be wearing less and less armour, depending on their rank.

This brings more of a pack feel to it, I think. Hopefully will get some new drawings up today :)"

Update #2
"Well, here is the second concept for my character. Just a quick sketch to get my ideas down on paper.. I'm still not happy with her, so she will change again.

I have changed the dogs to wear armour. The two next to her are her bodyguards, so they will don some heavy equipment. I will probably only end up modelling her and the two main dogs, I may paint the rest into the background? We'll see.

For the girl, she now has "Scene" hair! I have added an armband to her with a few stripey tails extending from it (similar to the tails in her hair). This will match the stripey leather/lace on her right leg."

:)

The dogs in you last image are looking more menacing in the first.
The gray hounds will be allot of fun to develop high ploy, creating the lean muscular details will be a good challenge.

I remember reading about Rottweilers (they are a scary dog)and how they where bread for going into battle, often dressed in heavy shoulder pads covered in spikes.
Also three or four Rottweilers where used to pull small chariots. could be something useful for you there.

The brother hood of the wolf is such a cool movie, what is that thing? I though it looked more like a Lion.

Cool idea

Nice, I didn't know Rottweilers were bred for battle. I will have to research that, maybe I can find some inspiration there :)

Yeah, the beast from Brotherhood of the Wolf is a lion :D

brotherhood of the wolf was a lion

Nice concept there Sevendust, cant wait to see the models! Speaking of which will there be the main character and a single higher poly dog, or multiple lower poly dogs?