Sumea Modeller Challenge

Hey, very nice work [:)].. I agree, you've captured his shape very well.. Can't wait to see you texture this one!

Final Mesh done.

2410 polys (Including shields)

http://www.steelkey.com.au/7.jpg

ack i hate UVMAPPING.

took me all day and atleast 4 attempts but i have finally finished the model.

enjoy.

http://www.steelkey.com.au/shrallfinal.jpg (120k.jpg)

wow, 10 hours to model, map, and paint textures...thats amazin [:)]

bit of a rush job, but i plan to go back and fine tune it, also got some animations coming out now, will post later

i have spent a few hours on setting up a rig and controllers ,hvnt quite finished yet and just did a quick bind to test the main movements. guess i should make a start on uv mapping..
heres a screen grab

http://andrewbertram.freeservers.com/rigscreengrab.htm

Hi, Currently we are just getting the Remote Linking Forbidden message
You need to change those links to URLs for a HTML you have made to hold the image, or get a non free server.

Pantmonger

thanks. i will try and fix it now. sorry in advance for the lame adds from the free hosting

Well i guess i have finished my uv coordinates, woohoo.
Here is a screengrab of the model with the uvs, Time to start painting the texture, its going to be so much fun with a mouse....

http://andrewbertram.freeservers.com/uvscreengrab.htm

sum feedback wld be nice [:)]

Sheezz, i dunno about painting these textures with a mouse....it's very frustrating and if i start using paths in photoshop its going to take a long time, wish i had a wacom.better start savin...

i will stop whinging then, and get on with it [;)] wacoms are so much easier,natural, and more acccurate then a mouse tho.

i procrastinate over texture painting soo much. i have animated a walk cycle for the character and started on another model and have done very little texture painting [:(]

wtf? 141 views and no comments or crits or words of encouragement?

Model looks good so far we are waiting for an update :)

the neck isnt long enuff and the torso is too wide ..but thats just waht i think ..oh yeah Tablets rock Id like to see some one draw a nice smooth arc with a mouse

quote:Originally posted by adie

the neck isnt long enuff and the torso is too wide ..but thats just waht i think ..oh yeah Tablets rock Id like to see some one draw a nice smooth arc with a mouse

very constructive adie.Thanks for posting this, umm, critique ! [^]

hmmm and hmmm again. I just finished my 12 hours at work and well who cares!!
anywayz, i reckon i might be out of this comp (hohum) i goota be back at work at 4pm and its 5:00 am now, im goona keep workin on my textures until i need to sleep, but either way i reckon im out...sorry to you and to me. I blew out last night and go too tired, i shldnt have gone and seen 8 mile, but hell it was my day off!! anywayz i shldnt have gotten tired and all the rest and sum of you might wanna say excuses excuses , but until you walk in my shoes or if you cant relate to the walk thats got to be walked, then you dont know!!! i will see what i can do before i pass out from exhaustion and the logical part of my head says "you got to go to sleep andy you gootta work another 12 hours today" ...... i will post when im done. I really wanted that industry feedback but hell if ya cant even get it from the peeps here then whos to say they will give me the time of day.... (thats prolly a negative on my part, i cannot be certain to say tho)
peace to you all. [:p]

oh yeah, i went and did a bunch of research on toads and frogs as they have really amazin textures and i thought i would use sum of them as insparation for the beasty man texture, which is what i am doin. Texture painting is the one area i need the most work in and as such i will texture this baby as best i can and to me its ironic (prolly not the exact right word) that i didnt get the wacom a week ago, better yet two weeks ago. [:(!]

and in saying that texture painting is the one area for me to work on i mean in paractice as the theory is all there and has been since is was prolly 10 and picked up pencil and paper, which i took further to after school lessons in drawing and shading. We all know that not parctising your drawing skills isnt like fallin off a bike tho or not riding one for a long time....... WHATEVER. i just felt i better explain meself.. [^]

Don't stress to much, comments in general on this forum are slow if any. I personaly havent givin feedback on anyones models due to conflict of interest, anything that I say while the comps on could be perceved in a slightly different light then post comp. After the comp is done I will crit your animal and the others who have posted and are sitting around going I wish I could get some feed back. Hell if everyone who entered the comp went though and gave everyone else who entered some feedback, that would be good.

Lets do that
Pantmonger

quote:I decided I would enter this challenge to get some feedback and see the variation in people's modelling styles. Trying to learn, learn, learn. :)

thats one of the main reasons for the challenge :) get everyone active and learning from others.

whats your polycount on it so far?
remember to make him a bit different to the original concept sketch.

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

I can see some edges that need turning, but I'm sure you're getting on to that.. what's your polycount? Are you taking advantage of the 3000p limit? Look forward to see how you progress [:)]

The polygon count is only 1700 at the moment

I had the Day off yesterday so when I hit the site yesterday morning, I thought that's a nice looking concept image, I'll give that a go. Sure I should be doing other things, but what else is new.

For any interested in the time frame taken for this, the Orthograpic took 1.5 hours, would have been shorter but I insist on adding a little depth with the pantones.

The model took 6.5 to 7 hours, so all up so far it took a working day.

Pantmonger

Finished work Friday, and thought, yeah I?ve got time. So here is part two.

The next step for me was to cut the model up so that I could mirror sections of it and cut down on the amount of pointless repetition on the texture maps. After cutting it up I selected all the faces and gave them material id 1 (this counts as void in my error checking process). I then went over the model assigning different material colours to each of the sections I would be mapping (using a multi sub object material), This also allows me to look over the model and turn any edges I missed etc.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/MTemp/SumeaComp1_ColourBreak.jpg

Once the model has all the colours assigned I can select by material id, material 1. If anything shows up when I do this then something has not been assigned a colour, and would have been missed in the mapping process (hence the error checking part) The other benefit of this method is that I can collapse the mesh select/ Uvw map/unwrap stack at any point because all selections are made via material Id and can be reselected at will.
I now UVW map and unwrap the model, and lay the unwrap into a square ready for texturing.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/MTemp/SumeaComp1_Checker.jpg

http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/MTemp/SumeaComp1_Texport.jpg

After this has been done I rebuild the model, and assign smoothing groups.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/MTemp/SumeaComp1_Smooth.jpg

Next stage is the texture, which I will be working on today, next update sometime in the next 48 hours.

Hope this helps others, and if you can think of anything that might help me, please mention it.

Pantmonger

Very nice use of texture space! Model's comin' along faboo @:-)

Chris Bowden
http://brain.gamekey.com/

Fist off, the above images are now just links so that the page will not cripple 56k users, click on them if you want to see the progression.

Final Stage done, well the texture took the better part of a day and a half for do, Had a bit of a time trying to get the look I wanted on the skin, and although you can?t really se it in these shots it worked out quite well in the end.
Here is also the wire frame from the final mesh, not that different, just a couple of small fixes and a few turned edges.
[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/Jagged/3d13_BeastTexture.jpg [/img]
[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/Jagged/3d14_BeastWire.jpg [/img]
[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/Jagged/3d15_BeastDone.jpg [/img]

Well its been fun (a little tiring with work as well, but whose faults that, mine that?s who)
Time to run off and pimp this around (comments are a little thin on the ground round here) Oh and there that other competition with Dean I have to finish, oh and that other model?

You got to love it, have fun all.

Pantmonger

What? It's been finished for a few days now, and It would appear that a few people have viewed it, but no comments, [:(]

Oh well...

Pantmonger

Looks sweet, I'm especially envious about your UVmap it looks very neat and simple yet your skin is still really nice, I can see i still have alot to learn about Mapping.

Cant really pick anything on the model either (not that im in a position to comment on its technical merits just yet) if i HAD to pick on something i would say his feet look a bit unformed, but thats a stretch as they look fine on the skinned model.

good work.

Nice work what company do you work for?

http://www.lukedwyerdesign.cjb.net

Thanks for the comments guys, yeah the armour prob could have done with a bit more dirt and the like (even some rust) But Im so out of time so much stuff to do. (I love it though, If I wasn't busy what would I be?)

Anyway Im currently doing work for HalfBrick (have been doing so for 3 months now but christmas was in the middle) But that all ends tomorrow (friday) so I get my referance and must start the great pimp and post in search of paid work.

Again thanks for the comments

Pantmonger

Pantmonger i envie your skill[:D] makes me want to get kracking on some more tutes[8)]
once again great stuff[8]

Thanks for the praise, Hopefully Im at at the level where I could be employable [;)] Or at least close (I hope)

Thanks Again

any1 want to paint the textures for me, if i map it? i will model and skin by ends week, let me know if you wanna come up with textures tho? and if you wanna work on the mapping? , otherwise i will! decide when you see the model eh!

keep on doin, what you been doin!
And one day, you will be free!

Great idea, but why don't you also write a small brief for the 2D artists and have them work on a similar comp so that we have some concept art for the next round?

Question, what is the Max size and number of texture maps for this model, there is a polycount mentioned, but no limit mentioned on texture maps.

Pantmonger

quote:Originally posted by mochumbo

Great idea, but why don't you also write a small brief for the 2D artists and have them work on a similar comp so that we have some concept art for the next round?

Yeh, I think the 2D challenge would be more interesting and beneficial if they make up their own character, rather than rescketching Feng's concept.. the winner of which would be used for challenge #2 modelling..

In the update it now reads 1024 unwrap only, does this mean we are not to do the texture for the model, because if thats the case the size of the texture map does not really matter so long as it is square.

Clarification needed, sorry if Im being a pain.
Pantmonger

HMMMMM I'll give it a shot

"when it comes to angry killing machines, nothing beats the Lord Jesus!"

Just to add a little bit more to the challenge, I'm thinking of bugging 5 artistic industry types to vote on the results..

Brad Welch from Pandemic
Steve Stamatiadis (Creative Director, Krome)
Rodney Green (Art and Technical Supervisor Infogrames Studios Asia)
..and two more.. (any suggestions? maybe someone from Irrational)

** oh, Feng Zhu on the voting panel would be nice too. [;)].. hope he answers my email..

I'm sure they can spare us a few minutes of their time to comment on their choices, what they liked and their opinions. It would be a good insight!

Well I for one I'm going to have a go at this. Maybe take in a bit of time because I'm texturing something else, but I will find the time somewhere.

Any way I'm I to understand that the image is not to be model just something from the same species??

Oh I?m going to get into so much trouble for this.

This comp need to be locked down with no further changes real fast, as it stands when I did the model the comment was do not re-create it exactly, which I took to mean, subtle changes please. Now it?s the image is not to be modeled, just the same species, which is a bit of a change, especially considering I have already modeled it.

Also the break down for this comp still states that it is a modeling and texturing comp, but if the map is to be UVW unwrap only its not really a texturing comp.

Changing aspects of the comp post receiving entries is a little weird. How about we stick with the original construct of.

That Picture at the top, with slight variance.
3000 poly limit.
1 x 1024 texture map.

All to be done by one person.

Oh and can we have a finishing date, the quality of a model can differ greatly if you know you have 3 months opposed to a week.

Pantmonger

Two weeks sounds fine to me, is that 2 from the posting of the comp, or from now?

Pantmonger

Oh man... make it 3 months, please.. [;)].. I don't have as much time to put into my model, and I'm sure there are plenty of people who still don't know about the challenge yet who would love to have a go.. no real rush... plenty of time to refine on your model and texture and make it kick ass. [:)]

If it's going to be changed, I'd say make it 3 weeks. This still puts a fair time constraint on the challenge, with people still able to come in late in it and have a whack. As to people who don't know about it, there'll be future challenges, no? @:-)

Chris Bowden
http://brain.gamekey.com/