Work in progress

Cool pants. That first one is sweet.
cheers

Speedpainting is something I dont do enough of.
With that said I really like the second one too.
What did you use PS or Painter?
Oh and the first one reminds of the lead singer of Evenesence (hope I spelled that right), specifically their album cover. Dont know if you were going for that or not.

Thanks guys.

Done in Photoshop, I do not own painter, so Photoshop all the way.
And yes the first image was referenced on the lead singer from Evanescence, from the cover of the ?Going Under? single.

Pantmonger

i really like the faye vallentine pic (that may be because i think that she is hot anyways). the only thing that looks a bit odd with it is that her forehead needs to be just a little higher.

the mermaid pic is also quite nice, but the shadows around her mouth and nose are a little odd. her mouth looks like it sticks out in an odd way (like the simpsons).

very nice pics though. the poses are excelent. good work

looking awesome pants, I want your drawing skills!

Would like to see the same without the manga eyes.. Just not personally a fan of the style..

Anyhow, nice job

Nice. I would also like to see one not in the style of manga/anime (or whatever its called).

Thanks for the feedback guys, Im just going to throw the odd sketch or two here evry now and then, feel free to crit them

[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/jagged/sketch/sk06_leaninggirl.jpg…]

Pantmonger

Made some changes, inked it and cell shade.

[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/jagged/sketch/sk06_animelean.gif[/…]

Pantmonger

ooo. the colouring work is very nice. the only thing that you may want to try is adding in some gradients on some of the angles to soften it a bit. you may be going for the complete solid look though. if so, then it looks very nice.

Thanks, yeah I was going for the solid "cell shade" style, hence no gradients.

Pantmonger

[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/jagged/sketch/sk08_alita_jean.gif[…]

My first attempt at some serious foreshortening, this image is east vs west with Alita and Jean Grey.

Pantmonger

Foreshorting is a difficult thing to do, but I think you have done it pretty well. Maybe the change in the size (in terms of width) of the arm is a little too much, I dunno, just being picky! :)
Nice composition too I reckon.

damn you good artists .. i do presume youve all been doing this for some time now yes ? cos if any of you are just starting out,.. i sware!! ..

this art is wicked man,.. i really like the cellshaded chick too,.. looks awesome,.. right out of an art book i reckon.

I like it! The foreshortening is extreme but thats a perfectly reasonable style decision, especially since its partially anime inspired.

Great stuff Pants!

Here's a question:

If you had an idea for something and then saw something else that had already done it, would you continue with it or start again?

Reason being that the backgroung/scene I had in mind for this has been pretty much interpreted the way I wanted to by the Wu Shu background in Mortal Kombat:DA.

Damn.

Do it anyway, all thing are unoriginal in their own way, it?s only the nuance of personal interpretation that makes things different. As long as you don?t directly clone the composition, it should be fine.

As for the image, looking good, I would suggest that you add a few personal touches to make the character more distinctive. Some elaborate gold embroidery perhaps, and or a distinctive tattoo, you get the picture.

Pantmonger

Nice character.
I think he looks pretty cool as is, maybe a tattoo wouldnt hurt.
I agree with Pants on the background thing as well.

nice work jonathon very stylised [:)] i love his sword too ! i wish i can add that to my collection [:)]

Cheers for the comments all.

Pants - the gold embroidery is a good idea. The motifs I will be adding will be either lunar or solar based. The characters name is Zodiac because I envision him as a lead character in a game where the main USP is that the characters powers depend on the internal clock of the system. His skin will light up with constellation (tattoos) under the night sky.

ie - Gemini (late may to late june) could call on the powers of a copycat version of the character for double strike power. So powers for the game played during this period would be based around Gemini.

Likewise - for Pisces, the powers may be water based. Breathe underwater for longer or water based magic strikes etc...

Obviously 12 levels would be there, with a different boss at each end. Depending on which period you play, your powers will be different. This is to encourage replayability of around once a month (which for an action adventure is quite good).

A game clock day/night cycle would be in effect as at nighttime, the characters skin shines with constellation and his colour turns to night blue. This'll be the other version of this character.

Cool piccie and game idea, Jonathan!

I think you might find a few people moving their clocks forward to select
the best powers for each level :) You could always get the game look at
the user's email or web cache to get the approximate real date though ;->

quote:Originally posted by CombatWombat

Cool piccie and game idea, Jonathan!

I think you might find a few people moving their clocks forward to select
the best powers for each level :) You could always get the game look at
the user's email or web cache to get the approximate real date though ;->

That'd be up to the player I guess.

I suppose there'd be one way to do it that a save game could leave some kind of a code/cookie or something that tells if the internal clock has adjusted for that particular save file. ie - maybe the dd/mm/yy that the game started...

(The sort of people who do that are the same as those who buy the strategy guides before they've played a game or attempted the puzzles. But I believe that players should play the way they want to play, not how WE want to play).

I envision that the game could be finished within a week or so - nothing too long, so that if players dont want to wait until the next month, they don't have to. Mind you, I see this as a console title not a PC one.

he looks pretty comfortable in those shoes, or sandles even. i can imagine him coming back from the beach or something. i like it all.

wish i could draw like that.

Some good work there.
I think your best stuff is those two 3d models at the top.

Nice concept, I'm still learning how to draw so to me it looks awesome.

Stu

Okay finally got around to start modelling this celestial avenger concept. Its far from completion the poly limit i set myself is 3000 tri's , and its a pretty messy mesh at the moment, and sits at 2580 tris as it is. ill fix up all the dodgy bits in the next day or 2,... as well as give him some hands ;)

comments / crits welcome,..

http://elysianart.topcities.com/Models/Front.jpg
http://elysianart.topcities.com/Models/FrontWings.jpg
http://elysianart.topcities.com/Models/Perspective.jpg
http://elysianart.topcities.com/Models/side.jpg
http://elysianart.topcities.com/Models/QuickRender.jpg

hey hes looking pretty spiff haz, nice concept too. are you gonna finnish the pic off?
well you better *shakes fist*
but a little suggestion about the drawing, even tho it is concept and blah blah blah, i think you should try to think about depth as well its all in the foresortening and the shading as well :) i think you will pick that up well, add some 3d to ur drawings and they will loooook sooooooooo cool, not that they rnt cool already. and i think i should shut up cuz yeah...... *looks around whistling*
but yeah nice model ^^ keep going!

whoops forgot to post the final concept, hes all done now [:)]
ill just get the model complete then ill colour the concept,..

stay tuned...

http://elysianart.topcities.com/ConceptArt/CelestialConcept.jpg

Nice model. I like the cross belts on the chest plate which you had in your concept, which I reckon would look cool on your poly model. I prefer how the wings are face more downward like in the concept as well, but that's just a personal thing. The chest plate on the model needs some edges turned (between the chest) and you could probably merge those two close vertices on the wings. Looking good, can't wait to see it textured. [:)]

okay heres an update, ive just finished off his hands and added the cross-belt across his breastplate.

currently at 3364 tris - so hes a bit over budget, but ive still to clean up the mesh [;)] and theres lotsa areas where too many polys are used, so once i get that fixed up,.. ill post a final pic of him then start texturing.

I changed his shoulder pauldrons from thos big barrel type things just cos i think these ones looked better.

http://elysianart.topcities.com/Models/CelestialMessy.jpg

Souri: yeah i know what you mean re the wings,.. i just modelled them stretched right out - in a relaxed pose theyll be all down and semi folded [;)]

yay finally got some time to work on him again!!

Mapped and unwrapped him ,.. and just started to paint the textures shud be finished him 2morow or the next day if i dont get carried away with my clay sculpting ;)

ok ok although i realise i have infinite newbie wisdom, there are some things i just dont understand,.. "where for art thou help regarding posting immages instead of just links" ?

Hey there, you're off to a good start but there are a couple of points you may want to consider to improve in future. Firstly when someone starts digitally colouring it's hard to resist using all of the colours available, the result is the Cristmas theme you have going here. Try knocking the saturation right back, use duller colours. That way when you want to use a really strong colour you can use it to pull the viewers eyes to the focus of the drawing and not compete with all the other colours.

Secondly, if it is concept art you are interested in getting into then you have to put alot of thinking into your designs, why are they like that, what are their purpose? etc. I can see this hasn't happened with this piece because simply by looking at it I can see this poor guy won't be able to lift his arms without his guards hitting the horns of his helmet. Not much chance of blocking that skull-splitting Orc blow! ;)

So there you go, a couple of things to work on, but as I said you're off to a great start :)

Hey Lee, thanks for that,.. funny you shud say that about using all the colours,.. thats pretty much exactly what i did,.

yeah,.. i hear what your saying with the armour,.. and no not alot of thought went into the actual design of the dwarf.. i just put pencil to paper and thats pretty much what came out,..

i guess the guts of it lies in the fact that i dont really want to be the best concept artist,.. just good enough to be able to express my ideas to a real concept artist,.. as most of the work that ill post on here will be just quick sketches,.. and bodge paint jobs,.. for the 2d art side of things,..

ill spend a bit more time on modelling and texturing,.. which im also pretty new at,.. but where i feel more comfy i guess,. im not so bad with clay,.. so i think the transition to 3d shudnt be so hard.

Thanks for your comments tho!

its fun!

tho kinda hard if you don't know what to do..

someone (other than me!) should write a small tute or something on how to play it without getting stomped

Very cool Ben!

As for crits well first up don't post User view. [:P] The bottom pic is alot easier to read proportion.

No real major problems that I can see from a glance, some anatomy issues and I'd maybe make actual eyeballs since its quite high poly anyway and just have the claws poking into the mesh not welded on.

Check out some reference of dogs teeth also they are alot different to what you have there.

Pretty sweet model though, go forth and texture!!

the profle pic is from a camera, and i think all the rest are from perspective views, i'm pretty sure that's what i rendered out anyway. It is much larger at the front than back - but this was intentional. it's a more screwed up look than realistic, which is the idea.
I know what you mean about the teeth. I found a lot of pis on the net of wolves and dogs, and these teeth don't realy 'match' i had some better ones in there but i needed to cull polys so i went for these ones instead, and less of them. I was doing to put bid spikes in the jaw armour (like big teeth) but i completely forgot about them! so i'm probably going to have to go back and rework it a bit anyway.
I'll try that with the claws. dost it make it look more natural or something? they have a seperate smoothing group on them but you cant realy tell in the pics. I'd like to re-model the nose too, it's abit round for my liking, and the bootom jaw is wrong, but i cant even draw a dog's bottom draw and this is the first time i've tryed to model one so it was kinda a pain.
oh well, back to it.

after a bit of reworking this is how it now stands. i'm calling this finished i think. thak's malus, the claws do look much better as seperate elements as opposed to being wielded. i fixed up the jaw a bit, and added the spikes i wanted. i also manadged to get rid of a lot of polys from the legs and body, and clean up a lot of three sided polys in the process. there as still a few in some areas, but most are in areas where it wont need to deform, and it's pretty clean i feel. i never did manage to get the tail attaching are looking rights, but i figure if it's moving , with alphaed hair about it, and the fact that you will mostly seeing him from the front, this minor defect can be convieniently ignored.[:)]
here's also my final sketch i worked from. as you can see i'm not much a traditional artist.
oh, and these are from the persepctive view for sure this time!

EDIT: bloody hell i didnt realise how big that sketch picture was! sorry 'bout that!

EDIT 2: seems that last pics is a bit of a weird angle. it makes the tail join look worse than it really is.

[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/backdoglive/sketchside.txt[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/backdoglive/dogwire01.txt[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/backdoglive/dogwire02.txt[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.geocities.com/backdoglive/dogwire03.txt[/IMG]

Excellent model. That harness / muzzle / thingy is awesome.

What style are you going for? I wanna see an anime demon dog!
Looking forward to seeing what you do with all that hair...

Nothing wrong with having a few tris visible in a quad based mesh, its not like your meshsmoothing it into a high res model.
Its more important to get the geometry right than culling tris just for looks.

You may have some small issues with the legs in animation, where they join the body, think about how it will deform.

Looks good

I'd recommend a bit more study into the leg>torso of canine anatomy - the volume of the torso seems a bit off, as well as something funky happening with its front leg shoulder blades and the connection to the torso.

good job, I'm interested where you take the mane and its blending into the fur

i am a little worried about the legs when i come to animate it, so i'm probably going to have to do a quick test rig first before i texture it.and if someone such as you Malus, think's i'm going to have trouble then i probably am!

as for the proportions. it is supposed to be greatly exadurated, and not realsitic, wich should be obvious, but i understant what you are saying J.I. Even unrealistc proportions usually need to some how make sense. basically i wanted a huge upper body and large front legs. so the biggest problem is probably the sholder blades though, as you pointed out. they don't seem to join in the right place, the front leg itself probably needs to be a little further forward and up. though i like the idea of a large hunch on it's back. and the blades themselves dont look the right shape. it certainly has far too much muscle it its lower front legs too, though i was aware of this from the start, and i rekon it makes him look all the more nasty. if anything the back lower legs probably need to be a bit bigger to match up a bit with his back thighs.
of course the thing i like best about this model is that it looks more like a bear than a dog, I can imagin the hero about to face up to it: "you're telling me that's a DOG????" (he should be about the player's height - including the spikes on his back - or bigger btw.)

i'll have both your comments i mind next time i look at it though for sure, for any minor adjustments. no major changes now though, i got to get this thing done, i've got a lot to do at qantm atm! but this fella's going in my folio for sure.

Thats pretty wicked man, i really like that jaw piece thing, i cant help but look at his size and stature and think " Thats a nasty dog " but at least he wont be able to bite me ;)

The only thing i wud have done diff is given him some decent sized paws, both sets ,.. front and rear seem inadequately sized to cop all that weight.

Overall a wicked model tho man! :)

finally finished! actually i finished the body texture some time ago, and i was waiting to get my graphics tablet before i started on the hair. i dont consider my self a texture artist, but i consider myself good enough to present my work, and i'm pretty happy with this. looks better lit, so i might do some baking. also there are big seams around the legs, which i intend to get rid of soon. which reminds me, Dean, if you see Geordie, ask him to email me about how to do his 'getting rid of seams' mapping trick. i cant quite remember how to do it. anyway here it is:

>4002 tris (i found an uncapped nail head just as i was almost finished unwrapping!)
>1024*1024 texture for the body
>1024*1024 texture for the hair + alpha map (will probably drop it to 512 before i put it in the game (cos it's for a game))
>rigged with biped (i wanted to do a coustom rig but the engine needed biped)
>animating now...

[img]http://www.geocities.com/backdoglive/dogwhair01.txt[/img]
[img]http://www.geocities.com/backdoglive/dogwhair02.txt[/img]

this is just a 10 frame gif of the run cycle, cut down from the full 19 frame version. it looks a bit dodgy but as far as i can see there isnt any way to attch a file to a post fo the gif will have to do.

[img]http://www.geocities.com/backdoglive/run.txt[/img]

Not too shabby, Although ive seen better models come out of the Ford car factory..... Only joking mate! great work as usual, can't wait to see it textured..

You might need to add a cooler tail, seems a shame to stick something that looks like it is available at 'Naughty but Nice' on such a grand creature.

Keep it up!

wow that is one mean arse dog or bull but oh well damn looks awesome... that is some ultra high iterations... u gonna animate him inglis ? love ur work man..... oh yeah did u manage to finish that orc ???

chris... [:)]

Sweet.

Reminds me of those nasty pink guys from Doom.

I love the head... I want it on my wall =D

Awesome!
I love the face, all the little bumps just make the muscle so believable.
I cant wait to see it finished :)

Looking good Inglis. Just noticed the front limbs end in more human like hands instead of feet. Is it meant to be able to stand on its hind legs?

Nice work, I love the bump details in the head. Is that modelled or diplacement?

Great attention to detail anyway. I assume your going to pose the front hands into a more applicable position when you rig it?

It's excellent portfolio material, thats for sure. Looking forward to seeing it textured.

cool stuff!!!!

What the chance of see the working mesh on that??

I think the protruding spines work better on skinny bony type characters. Your's has a much more muscely pitbull type feel to it than the one in Art of Warcraft.

Stu

I agree, it probably wont suit the look of character seeing as its a muscular build.

here's an oldie bug a goodie from my portfolio
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/altiquex/killcounting_rant.jpg[/img]

that last piece reminds me of the Infernos out of Warcraft.
nice stuff. thanks for sharing.
welcome.

only thing i can suggest to improve on is the proportions, otherwise very cool. i like your style :)

Nice stuff man.
I the style as well, very loose.
That last one is brillant, I love it way its contrasts agianst the white background.
Looking forward to seeing more of your work

was thinking about doing a desktop background ever scince i saw inglis's work.
what you think, [img]http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/alti2/screeny.jpg[/img]

oh and here is a link to the big image,, and i mean big, lots of details- http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/alti3/desktop2.jpg

wow! that looks really well done :)

is some of that stuff bryce?

Dear God No! I have only ever used bryce once and hated it. All these are made in 3d studio max, some have been touched up in Photoshop, color balance, contrast etc.

Stu

yeah i just thought the 2nd,3rd,6th might have been, no probs :)

thanks for sharing your work-how long have you been doing 3d?

Basically as a hobby on and off for the last 2-3 years. I can see why the 3rd one looks a little brycish.

Stu

That last one is really cool, i like the sky and the kinda,.. ermm deflated soccerball thing,.. dunno, something about the light and the camera angle in that shot,

Looks promising, mate. How soon till you have a beta version up?

Unfortunately, we won't be uploading any demo versions until after the conference, as that may be construed as self-publishing, and render us unable to enter the competition. We're looking forward to getting to the conference, and hearing all the comments everyone has!

cheers

Matt

Great work.
The first thing that came into my head when I saw this was "this looks like Warcraft 3 concept art" Nice job on cpaturing that style.
As for crits well the male elves face looks a little too wide, you could probably fix this by extending the hair over the face more.
The fur and cloth are done very well.
The rock and grass are a littl dull though, but no biggie
Nice work :)

nice work pants.

i agree with the male elfs head comment.
maybe a change of background/environment..put them in the forest where they live with an evening sky.

Looks great Pants.

I would agree on the head thang also and the background is a little to bland for the characters, especially since they are night elves, I think a dark background like your first fan art would be much better.

Everytime you post one of these I get really motivated to do one myself, never do though lol.

The leather and creases are looking great man, especially the male elves left glove.

I'd like to see it a little less desaturated too but thats a personal choice not really valid.

Awesome work pants [:)] i like it when u colour in ur 2d piks like that.... [:)]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Changes are going to happen.
I will be dumping this background and making a new one, and changing a few minor things on the characters.
Expect a new version in about a week or so.

Pantmonger

Nice work, Pantmonger. I was gonna mention the face thing, but got beaten to it. I think as well as the width reduction, perhaps you can increase the length of the male elf's face a little. His chin leaves a lot to be desired if compared to Blizzard CG. Then again, perhaps that's ur unique style. Once again, kewl stuff. :)

man,.. wicked,.. nuff said. NUFFFFFFFFFFFF said.

whoa.. Kicks ass..

Bet those tubes were fun.
No crits.. Looking good so far though.

Hey, are you in russia?

PHWOAR!!

This is why I want to do some high poly stuff. Very cool.

Totally awesome.

Maybe you should enter the high poly comp if it ever happens, looking at your model you'd probably blow me away. Keep updating, i'd like to see it finished.

I second Malus.. PHWOARRRRR!!!

Excellent pipeworks there.

looks good so far metro-
just a couple things

- the corners of your lips are too sharp. and pull them in some.
- top lip needs a litte more definition and changed a little so its not like the bottom lip
- that crease under the mouth is a bit strong.
- the ear is a little flat and sharp. just needs more roundness overall..if that makes sense.. :)
- his upper cheekbone line is following the wrong line. its cutting over the cheek.

my only suggestions on the general shape of his head are
- maybe pull in the sides of his mouth (under his cheekbones). give him that guy pierce look lol....just give him a little more shape.
- define the temple a little.

- only problem i see with your "suit" mesh is the inner lining behind his head. its not meeting flush with that suit. it looks like you have cloned it off the suit mesh then built off it. but then added more detail into the suit so when they are smoothed they dont meet up.

just an idea...where the pipes go into his head. maybe you could detail that a little more. make them "plug" in. just a thought.

keep it up :)

Beside the changes that inglis pointed out, I think that the brow cerses the skin a little to much, which makes to eye socket over all look a little funny.

Very nice work on the tubes.

very nice work [:)] some very high iterations there...... well done

Hi, guys!

Thanks for comments I appreciate them very high.

Sorceror Bob - Yes, I am from Russia.
inglis - You have a great eye for details! Thanks, all Your comments are very usefull.

Best regards.
Metro 3D

no problems. keep us updated with your progress.

very nice, i'ld say it's perfect if not for the minor lip flaw already pointed out.

Very nice work. I like the stylised way of modelling you have acheived. It reminds me of the chiselled features on the characters in the movie Ice Age.

My only suggestion is with the mufflers on his back, maybe the could look a bit more 'worn', and thicker metal overall. More bulky.

But All in all i really like the design, and cant wait to see it finished.

Hi guys,

I am still working on this character and it still far from completion.
Anyway here is small update. Check it please and give me Your comments. The link is old:
http://metro3d.narod.ru/tempics.html

Thanks,
Metro3D.
http://metro3d.narod.ru

very nice.. I like it!

cool.
it reminds me of the stuff i used to fill my school books with. :)

Same, cept my stuff was never this well done :P

Hey thanx for the replies dudes...yeah its how ive been drawing lately, using the "doodle" method...just start drawing and seeing what comes out .

Weird....good weird though :)
Nice detials

Excellent work, I love that guy when I first saw the concept!

Nice, Definitely has that Warcarft 3 style to it. Very funky stuff.
A couple of crits from me are:
There is a lot of black on the texture map a lot of wasted space, there is a chunk of stuff on that map that could have been mirrored. (example the leg.)
The thumb appears to go to a point which looks a little wrong.

The only other thing is you have not included a poly count, textue map size and wire frames, these things are important if you want good feed back. What I mean is the model would be a good 1000 poly model but a crap 10000 poly one.

All in all great stuff.
Pantmonger

image isnt showing up

inglis- If you right click go to properties and cut and paste the url you can go see the image (it is worth it)

Pantmogner

impressive work.
i recognise that concept art there from the art of warcraft book.

Hi guys!

Pantmonger - thanks for comments!
The polycount is 1505 triangles.
One texture 512x512.

Here are links to wireshade pics:

http://www.metro3d.narod.ru/pics/RMwireF.jpg
http://www.metro3d.narod.ru/pics/RMwireB.jpg

and link to finished model
http://www.metro3d.narod.ru/pics/RifleManAll01.jpg

That is my favorit character from WIII, however in Frozen Tron I got another one - Spell Breaker. Maybe I'll make him too when I'll have free time enough.

My crit is that he doesn't have big bushy eyebrows!

Good work.

Scott.

Good work overall. You achieved the look from the concept very well.

Suggestions would include improving his thumb, it looks really blocky and low poly for 1505 poly model.
Also there is a fair bit of strong black on the skin as well as bright dodge tool highlights (for example on his boots and leather).

I had a look at your website, very impressive stuff [:)]

Hi guys!

rezn0r - Hey man, You got a great eye! Thank You for a good prompt !
I don't understend how I can forget to draw his eyebrows [^]

Makk - Your suggestions are very useful, thank You! I'll try to improve this guy as soon as I'll have a time. And thank You for visiting my website. I always happy to get guests there [;)]
By the way I am going to update it soon with new characters from my recent project. So everybody welcome there at any time.

Best regards.
metro3d
http://www.metro3d.narod.ru/

That is awesome work you got there metro even on your website [:)] its good to see someone abroad showing their stuff here in sumea. You are quite a good low poly modeller.

Keep up the good work [:)]

chris...

im no artist, so take the following with a grain of salt...
but to me the finish looks too matte

You need to experiment with different lighting techniques, also you should add as much detail into your model as possible, (bevel the egges on everything atleast). the material needs a slight reflection. mayeb just put a blurred picture into the reflection channel to give it more depth. experiment with light tracer, or radiosity. Area shadows would look nice too ..... good luck

a lot of the material properties and surface characteristics come from the actual environment around the object - being in a presentation white void, this looks kind of strange when you try and simulate realism in this way. Try some standard 3 point light setups, pull up the tonal range to incorporate higher specular, put in some variation in the surface quality (slight and very subtle if it's supposed to represent idealism like product advertising), and simulate it in an environment with subtle reflections and ligthing.

thanx dudes ;) ill give all that a go.

Welcome to Sumea.

Avatar: send it to Souri I think.

You posted that you couldn't model on the other thread man, but these are pretty cool.
Enter the challenge!!

Must say even though I'm sick of dangergirl and Joan of arc models, shes a cutey lol, I saw her posted on Polycount btw.

Thanks Malus :)
If I post my avatar here he could just grab it.
Avatar-
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rowanfamily/avatar.jpg[/img]

Also, here is a hand study I did at midnight cause I couldnt sleep, hahaha!
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rowanfamily/hand.jpg[/img]

I might enter the challange, although I wont get it finished in time[xx(]

Good mix of work here, only real crit I can offer is to pop your highlights, and subtley underlight blacks.
Your skinning lacks tonal range, and seems to be stuck in absolute diffuse ligthing. It's also incredibly "clean", meaning there's no colour variation or localised wear and tear.

Keep it up

What joel said

I was about to crit the chick model, when I saw it wasn't made by you.. I likes anyways.

Thanks Styles and Sorceror Bob, crits are ALWAYS welcome :)
I actually practiced some underlighting on that dark skin (the 2nd one) but wasnt confident in how it turned out.
I dont quite understand what you mean by absolute diffuse lighting though.
I'll be posting up a WIP of a UT2K3 skin soon, that I hope will be a portfolio piece.
Oh and thanks to Souri for getting my avatar to work. :)

meh...
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rowanfamily/merc.jpg[/img]

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[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rowanfamily/polarbear.jpg[/img]
Here is a speedpaint I did today. It was referenced from a photo (but wasnt just a paintover). Roughly 50mins PS6.
I really enjoyed doing this so I plan on doing a few of these each week. [:0]

Please post some stills, as I have not the time to wait for a 4 meg download on dial up, especially when I don't even know if I have the codec you have used for your compression.

Remember the cardinal rule of pimping, make it easy on people or they may not bother.

Pantmonger

no worries, cardinal rule of pimping noted.

[IMG]http://www.jacobleetai.com/images/ffdirty1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.jacobleetai.com/images/ffdirty2.jpg[/IMG]

codec for quicktime mov is sorenson 3
codec for windows avi is divx 4.03

I've downloaded the avi. Great looking model! I like the dirty textures - gives a bit of realism to it.. You could do some better looking alloys though! [;)]

Thanks, I agree the wheels are a bit dull, but they're the ones they use on loose surface stages. Here's a reference:

[URL]http://rally-net.20m.com/images/1.jpg[/URL]

Having said that I have taken some liberties with the decals etc so I guess it'd be okay to change the alloys too.[:p]

can we see some wire views?

Here's the wire and texture sheet. Rendered with snotmonster.com's edgemap plugin and render to texture in Max.

[IMG]http://www.jacobleetai.com/images/ffwire1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.jacobleetai.com/images/focus4.jpg[/IMG]

The mesh is quite dense in areas, I am going to make a damaged version soon, so the extra polys will help then.

Never been a big fan of car or gun models but I like that texture, especially if its hand painted.

6600 is alot of polys but I don't know racing game specs so tell me if I'm wrong.

I don't like most gun models either, unless they are paired to a nice character. I'm in Adelaide so it is appropriate for me to put cars in my portfolio [;)]. The texture has very few hand-painted elements (only dirt is really painted, the rest is path tools), most of the nice shading you see is from texture baking. Games like Colin Mcrae 3 use much more subtley baked textures than I have used here, to balance with realtime lighting.

The polycount is too high for games like GTA & The Getaway but only 1/2 to 1/3 of that of most current rally games (CMR3, WRCII Extreme etc). So I think with a polycount like this, there could be two on screen at once.

cheers!

wow, looks real :)

Very nice work there jacobt
Nothing to crit
:)

Awesome work ironikart [:D] Yeah that edge map is a very good plugin it presents work really well i use it on all my renders ....... Do you have MSN messenger ? hehe good to see a multimedia artist going further onto 3D [:)] I rekon dirty up the textures that will make it awesome !!!!

Good work as usual.........[:D]

Very nice Ironkart, a big improvement on your last model. [:)]

As for critiques, I like the head, back and areas of the torso but the boots in the side shot are strange, very blocky and low poly compared to the rest of the mesh, they're meant to look more like stilettoes.

Some seams (head,groin) and texture stretching too (yellow vents? on the boots)which you should be able to fix since the map isn't overly detailed in most areas.
You could cut back in the polys in the lower arms too without too much noticable 'chunk-ification'.
Also can't tell what the hands are like with that image either.

Great stuff man. Keep it up. [:D]

quote: ...'chunk-ification'.

Good word. I'm gonna steal it.

Its latin for making something seem blocky. [:P]

Good stuff ironikart
I like the colours you have chosen and the skin is nice and simple (and well excuted too)
I like the render too :)

Keeping up a nice standard in your 2d work Pants, you've inspired me to do some more....again.

Festy, but good festy. Nice job, now flash us your wire frame. [:I]

Pantmonger

Intersting design, like to see the wires too if you have them handy?
I love the clawed birdlike feet.
Its anime inspired obviously, is it an original design of yours? if so do you have any sketches? I'd love to seem the roughs.

Looks cool man, her right arm looks uncomfortable in that angle though she doesn't look like comfort is a major worry of hers. [;)]
I think the right shoulders rolled forward too much.
Pretty damn cool though apart from that.
I have a sneaky suspicion Brom is god..... [:P]

Hey Pant, I like the background and the skin colouring. I agree with Malus though, the pose is a bit uncomfortable. Anyway, nice work. :)

Nice design but I am a bit concerned about where her inside go with that kind of waist but then she looks like a cyborg anyway.

Well now that you've finished a game you've completed 50% of successfully releasing it. Now you have to market the game to your potential audience (since you're selling it, if it were a free game you could just post the links up in several places and watch the downloads progress).

Now I have to say that I'm not a marketing expert, but I have read a fair bit about game development and then selling the game / product, and I am also a potential customer of yours. Gamedev.net have run a nice story about developing shareware not a while back, might be interested to read that.

The first thing that occured to me when I visited the provided site, is that there are no screenshots, or decent images of what the game is like - you must have them!!! - then there is only a short list of features, of which I only understood it to be a turn based game with lots of units. It would be more helpful to me as a "potential customer" to see some in game screenshots, some profiles (images and text describing the object) of some of the units and factions in your game, a bit of history where your game is set out to be etc.

That's about all the feedback I can think of now, although good work on completing a whole game!

Good job on completing a game, shows alot of commitment.
Unfortunaletly the site really wasn't very impressive and first opinions count for alot.

Screen shots are an absolute must and get your artist to tart the site up a bit, doesn't have to be over board, just cleaner.
One more thing, you might want to change your logo, thats your 'brand name', the thing you want everyone to associate with your work, it looks 3 minutes worth of effort went into it so people will assume thats the amount of effort you put into the game.
Theres a reason Coke outsells Coles brand cola and its not just taste.

Will try the demo out when I get the chance. [:)]
Good luck.

Hear, hear. Nothing like a web site that makes your eyes bleed to turn customers away. If I can become *half* the designer that the Blizzard web guys are i'll be all too pleased.