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Grouping related work into one post is the correct way of doing things, so if you had a series of pictures with the same map, or model from various angles, they'd all go in one news post - with the best picture in the image1 slot for the main page/section pages..
This system however falls apart when 2d art is concerned because each 2d art is usually a unique piece, and yes I've noticed that your work has been bumped a few positions down (although it's still there on the main page).
A lot of people view the thumbnails off the main page first, and I agree that a bit of consideration must be given to others who are doing the procedure right and that everyone gets an equal amount of exposure..
I don't want to go and edit posts myself, but I will let members know of the problem and to just be more considerate..

Wow, cool, I'm glad to see that some real *professional* game dev types visit these forums :-) IMO it raises the status of this site above the masses somewhat.

There's always been a fair few industry people lurking around on this site and forum. They're just very shy I guess. [;)]..

Either that or:
a) They are scared that if they show their face on these forums they will get a flood of resumes and job applications.
b) They're too busy to bother registering and attending to this forum regularly.
c) They only go here between working and playing networked computer games in the office.

I'm beating everyone I know in the industry to check out Sumea so hopefully some will crumble [:)].

Hey guys, I've got a question, I've been meaning to write up some of my knowledge (tutorial or briefs) I've learnt over the years but I'm not really sure where to start (there's enough general polygon and texturing tutorials on the web) so I was wondering what people wanted to know? I can't say I'm the guru on all things art but if there's a topic that people particularly want some help or info on let me know and I'll see what I can do. I have a better then average technical art skill so don't be shy there common make it as technical as possible... maybe this should go into a separate thread?

Regards,

Rod.

check your other thread :)

Lead paint: delicious but deadly!

Meatex and Myself will be AIE guys for the next couple of years. Do you know the real name of the guy at AIE, maybe we'll meet him (No pressure, if he doesn't want to reveal it then fine, just tell him that two n00b 3d animators will be showing up to the AIE next year for the day course (or he could read it himself (too many brackets)))

100% chance of PAIN, in the GLAVEN

"Do you know the real name of the guy at AIE"
Theres only 1? :)
CYer, Blitz

His website says his name is Peter Gillespie..

Best Game since 2001 (Out now or later)

UT2K3
Doom 3
Deus Ex 2
Battle Fields 1942

(can't think of a 5th)

100% chance of PAIN, in the GLAVEN

what do you want more in games?
more story
more eyecandy
more violence
more sex
more multiplayer

Heres a current events one.

Should there be an R18+ classification rating for computer games in australia?
Yes. It should be up to the mature adults discretion to buy or not to buy.
No. The government should control everything we see, hear, & do.

Ummm, i could only think of 2 :)
CYer, Blitz

If you can't think of like serious one on game development kind of stuff then do things like
who would win in a fight?
Neo
Goku (from dragonball z)
Obi Wan
Tyler Durden
or my next-door neighbour's advark
[:p]
otherwise the what you want in game one is good.

or a game version of the above
james bond vs
pac man
the space invaders
gordon freeman
that chick from NOLF (forgot her name)

Bloody hell its a giant harmonica!

I like davids suggetion the most, and blitz' idea f he could come up with more answers :)

Lead paint: delicious but deadly!

How about something like:

Yes: I wanna see horror and titties...

Or something as stereotypical as that.

Horror and titties - now there's a mix that hasn't been done before ! ... maybe the BMX XXX guys can do that for their next release. [:)] Some very good submissions there, I'll definately add David's one after the current AGDC voting question..

Do you like voting

Love it
Yes
Not really
Hate it
Never voted and never will

100% chance of PAIN, in the GLAVEN

Oops. Didnt realise the artwork folders had been condensed.

The reason why I had members with their own forum section was that I could place their forum underneath their gallery to encourage more discussion on their work. And to an extent this worked, and people were viewing the responses as well.. Unfortunately when I upgraded the forum, all my code for the gallery bit had to be removed.
I think getting people to comment on work is probably the hardest thing to get them to do. It would be nice if there was more discussions in this area, but people just can't be bothered I guess. So yeh, I might put them all in one folder in the future.

Ah, ok.. I recall all about that debate now. I've made note of it in the post. tah. [:)]

Just a small update on the votes.. the results are looking very, very interesting.. some categories have their clear winners (and I mean, by a LONG shot), and there are others where it's really, really close.. if you haven't voted already, make sure you do!!

To tell you the truth, out of all those games I've only played 2 of them, curse my lack of support for the locals

Lead paint: delicious but deadly!

Well, the voting page has links to all every game thats referenced. You can read / view pics on what's what before deciding on your vote. I don't think many people would have played every/most of those games in the list..

...and to the person who submitted 7 votes for the same things this arvo, please stop it. Obviously they're not going to be counted.[:(!]

If you want to update an image, you just have to make sure the name of the pic is the same as the old one you uploaded previously, and upload.
If you want to change the order of the images so that another picture is in the first pic1 textbox, then you have to edit your news item, and rearrange the names in the picture text fields..

Cheers, I think I've sussed it out now. Question 2: How do I go about requesting a personal forum? Do I just put a new topic heading where it says "This member has not requested a personal forum yet"?

Cheers

Jono.

quote:Question 2: How do I go about requesting a personal forum?

I've set one up for you. For anyone else, the personal forum is given for the more active members (or else we'll have 40+ of these areas on the main page with nothing in them).. [B)]

The tutorials will be placed in the articles section - I just gotta design that are a bit to cater for it, but yeh, tutorials are most welcomed here! Whenever you're ready, give me a yell [:)]

I'll have to send my silly tutorial over, I'll send it after this week has ended ( I have to give a marketing and design project presentation this week and next, eep and *shudder* art theory...) I LOATHE Art theory [}:)]

what screen size do i save it at, is 800x600 standard these days?

//Without order nothing can exist - without chaos nothing can evolve. \(anon)

Email me the article in text format, and attach a zip file of all the images.. you can use whatever size images you like, although not bigger than 800x600 [:)] My email address is at sumea at sumea dot come dot au .. (yep, google, yahoo etc spider the forums, so it's not a good idea to mention your email address on the site.. fortunately for forum members, your private email details are never displayed.. and that goes for Sumea members as well [:)])
Thanks for your efforts in writing these tutorials.. I'm certain lots of people will find them very useful!

Like the updated forum, especially being able to jump to any page of a thread from the main bit, instead of having to go through page 1 first :)
CYer, Blitz

Yeh, I know! There are other few nice touches here and there too, and the code for the forum has really been optimized a lot, so it's much faster now.. I'm planning to put back the 'who's online' functionality after I come back from Canberra - I'd do it now but it contains a lot of crazy cutting and pasting. [;)]

Canberra, eh? Careful... once you come in, you may not get out.

Chris Bowden
http://brain.gamekey.com/

I gotta say, I like Canberra. Not much cars on the road (relative to Sydney), nice modern buildings, spacious parks, and a lot of room everywhere. The roundabouts over there are huge too. [:)]

Mmm... just spoilt by Brisbane living, I spose. Would rather be there than here in Canberra. But that's me. @:-)

Chris Bowden
http://brain.gamekey.com/

Yeh, I was thinking of making an archive of Australian developers that have finished up and are no more. It'll be good just to have some sort of record of them, and Sumea is definately the site that's suited to provide that info. Another good studio was Eyst, which made the game Wartorn.. There were also lots and lots of little start ups too.. If anyone knows any other companies, give us a yell, and I'll compile a list..

I'm hoping to have my own up in a few years :)

You might be interested to know that the main programmer of Wartorn is now teach game development programming at QANTM :)

Christian S? How's he doin'? @:-)

Chris Bowden
http://brain.gamekey.com/

Erm, just a little niggly error that I don't think deserves its own post.
The States for the two former game dev companies Silver Lightning software, and Ellipse studios have to be swapped, it was Ellipse that was in South Australia, and SLS in WA I believe.

-Cheers

Oops.. I've been doing some fixings on Sumea, and that slipped past.. thanks.

whooops! Sorry about that.. Mr Sumea says all fixed now!

i seem to get it when ever i first visit the site (then open up some sumea page from my computers history, then go back and index works...) but have seen it quite a few times //seen it about ten times including today

Yeh, it's pretty annoying. I'm gonna add some code so that whenever you get an error, it would at least forward you to the forum. (the forum uses another database so it should ease the burden of the main database).. I think new visitors are probably thinking the site is dead or something and won't come back. Having said that, it all shouldn't be happening in the first place..

Hi, thanks for the report. The Max Payne levels article link used to work but Gamasutra then put it for their registers users which is a shame. I did however make a note in the news post that the link no longer worked.
The animation tips link had one too many 'http://' codes in the link.. its fixed now. tah

i must be dumb. i can no longer find where i can add more images to my modeler profile, or have you disapeared the link/ page?

_edit, found it, was hidding down the bottome of the front page.... _doh_

Edited by - davidcoen on 26/07/2002 00:01:00

Hey, thanks for the comments.. and you know, you're the second person to suggest a text popup for navigation. I totally agree, and I'll put that up by tomorrow..
Incidently, when you roll over the buttons, it should say where they lead to in the status bar of your browser, but I've found that it doesn't show up in Mozilla v1 (great browser btw!! ..

hey, no probs. :) it's about the only thing i could fault about the design. the site looks very professional on a whole, have you worked with sites before?

(just changed to a new 3rd party theme on ie6 & xp, and now can see the link prompts, couldn't with my other theme.. perhaps that artist should come here! ;))

-click my homepage icon for q3 maps-

I've just made the text things next to the icons adjustments.. they look kinda cool. I have a design background and worked in the industy as a web designer for the last couple of years, so I guess have had some experience ..( although I lost my job a while ago.. this site is part of my portfolio to get a new one hopefully)..
I have to admit that a few sections of this site are a bit rushed, so I'm gonna redesign them in the not too distant future..

Thanks to GamesVictims for making Sumea a news item!
http://www.gamevictims.com/index.shtml

Hey, that was quick.. I just sent them the news item about 20 minutes ago, but Ausgamers have put Sumea up on their news.. thanks.
http://www.ausgamers.com/

Yep sure, you can delete your entries!.. click on the *edit* text next to your news item, and at the bottom there should be a delete button..

I have a question I am trying to upload a thumbnail and then put a link for the larger image. I kind of tried doing this and the thumbnail worked but then It showed a huge pixeled version of my work where I wanted it to display the link. After you click on a thumbnail where does that direct us?..Should I be posting images elsewhere?

sorry me = *stupid*

The larger version of the picture has to be 800x600 pixels in size.. so anything smaller will get stretched larger, so that's why it's pixellated..
Uhm.. just had a check on your naming conventions.. you can name your thumbnails what ever you like, but make sure only your large images just have a L.jpg at the end.. I see you're calling your thumbnails thumbnail3L.jpg.. it might get a bit confusing for you .. so in summary, thumbnails = xxxxx.jpg , large image is same filename but with an L at the end.. eg = xxxxxL.jpg .. both are uploaded onto Sumea..
After you click on a thumbnail, it directs you to that little gallery page with the large image on top, and all the thumbnails at the bottom..

I am a connoisseur at confusing myself and other people! muhahahaha. I can't wait to start putting more stuff up, this is such a funky site you have here Souri. And may I say your work is absolutely beautiful! You have such skill! I particularly like your eye for lighting and atmosphere..*everybody bow to Souri* haha!

erk! um can you gimme a hand, i attempted to upload my files just large ones, they uploaded and you can see the thumbs but when you click for a larger look they don't show up, can you tell me what i'm doing wrong?

Thanks
Bouncy

"Dimples are nice, but not on your thighs" - Kath and Kim

Bouncy, I think you've named your larger pictures incorrectly.. you've named one of your thumbnails as boobaS.jpg and the larger one as boobaL.jpg.. Sumea, however, expects to see the large picture as boobaSL.jpg.. so basically, whatever you call your thumbnails, your larger picture must be the same but with an L at the end (eg. thumbnail: shoe.jpg, largepicture: shoeL.jpg).. That's how Sumea automatically finds the large pictures.. it expects the same name but with an L at the end.. Another thing, I see that you've got large pictures showing up as thumbnails as well. I think this would have happened if you uploaded your thumbnails AND large pictures at the same time.. Make sure you follow the process, which is : 1.. Upload thumbnails first.. 2.. Add news (you'll notice that the picture fields are filled in.. these picture fields are only for your thumbnail names) 3.. Upload large pictures.. and thats it! Sorry if the upload process is little confusing. I'm currently thinking of ways to make the process easier.. If anyone wants me to guide them through it, I'm always available on MSN messenger and ICQ .. btw, your work is great! Nice modelled AND textured frog (some nice bumpmap details there), and very detailed camera.. the boobs are nice also ..

Hey Kirby,

Great pictures of that girl's face on the News!

I love the close up one. Her eyes are so startling.

Lovely work.

- Murray

Another update - the developers section is done and up.. that leaves only the articles/news sections to redo, and some other small pages, and that should be it!

Ok, in case you didnt notice (since I didn't mention it), the site is now public. I'm doing some small promotion at the moment, just letting other sites know of this one. www.gfxartist.com have been nice enough to put us in their news post at http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/3524 ..