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Found rssreader, but it tells me that Sumea's RSS feed doesn't validate :(

http://www.feedvalidator.org/check?url=http://www.sumea.com.au/include/…

(clickable : http://makeashorterlink.com/?F16F439EA )

Eeek... I will fix the tiny date error (damn, that's picky), the invalid urls - I'll replace the spaces with the ascii code for spaces, and the invalid character error is due to news submitters putting in crazy word document characters in their news items [:X]

Thanks for pointing me to this. [:D]

Blah :) I poked you in chat about it a bit ago. Thanks for fixing it Souri :) Mine is working again (I use an RSS feed on Trillian).

You should have harrassed me until I:

1. fixed the problem
2. call the police.. [;)]

http://www.desktopsidebar.com/
Very useful program

Check out the feed validator now [8D]

...I am, and it's not happy with bigworld's post :)

[:X] I hate word documents..

Ok, after a lot of searching, and trying out rssreader, desktopsidebar trillian pro's plugin and a couple of others, I've finally found [url="http://www.sharpreader.net"]SharpReader[/url]. It's light and (almost) exactly what I was after. Thoroughly recommended.

btw, I will be fixing mini Sumea up real soon, just beein fixing the other css styles before jumping into another one. It'll be very cool though!

Oh, I'll get onto the gallery as well asap. We're gonna have to find a way to make it fit with Sumea, like user comments and incrememnting picture views etc

Yeh, Firefox has issues with uploading pictures with the upload component that Sumea uses. You need IE to upload, unfortunately. I've written a small paragraph about it in the admin page.

ALERT THE INTERNETS!!!

You should be able to upload pics using Firefox and any other browser now when adding news with pics to your journal entries. Other uploads (avatars/forum avatar/developer logo/games pics uploads) will be fixed tomorrow after I get some sleep. [|)]

There's still a problem when you're uploading a lot of pictures in one go. Basically, the script seems to timeout at times for some reason. I've changed server timeouts to 40 minutes (so theoretically you could spend 40 minutes uploading and it would be ok, but it still does it. [:X] Best solution for that one is to upload 4 pics at the most at a time on broadband, and probably 1 on dialup. [xx(] (You can of course re-edit what you've posted to put in more pics)

awesome, its allways fun to be firefox friendly :P

yeah, i tried tupload 6 last time and kept timing me out!!!

I've just made some fixes so hopefully this problem is no more. I tested it out by uploading 8 large images and it worked fine. If anyone runs into problems, please let me know.

Oh my! Sumea has come along way from back then! [:)]
You've done a great job souri [:D]

heh yay the site before i knew it :p
its cool to think that this site has been running for that long, keep it up! :D

Three Cheers for our long-suffering admin!

Hip Hip!

HOORAY!

x 3 :D

*Throws confetti* [:D]

It's certainly come a long way!

fix the link!

the link's fine, you just have to copy/paste it in by hand [:)]

Try this one for the clipboard-phobic

http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2B8244CA

Yeh, Snitz thinks I'm trying to post two links, so it parses it as such. :/ Wrapping it with an url tag doesn't help either, so that's the best you're gonna get [:)]

silly snitz!

one thing i HATE are huge signature images... you're not an advertising firm & you're not a movie star, get over it. As redwyre said, a few lines text/links, and maybe a neat logo is fine. I really love having a forum page take 20x as long to load because people have huge sig's... especially when replies are like "yeh, i agree" then its another 15lines for an image!
:D

ps. this is mainly from other forums, i havn't had a problem here :)

100% agreed to both. I'm normally not a fan of sig images at all, but I have seen some done very well...

i've never noticed picutes in sigs here (is it possible to turn them off? i still have text sigs though, might check that out).

but i agree about huge sigs, most of the time i cant find the actuall posts in a long thread cops they're just a few lines hidden amoungst huge images in the sigs. a small sig about the height of one or two lines of textx is fine in my oppinion. any more and you're just wasting space and bandwidth.

I'd prefer no image signatures actually. I'm too lazy to tell people to not do it though. That can be your job, if you like [:D]

Power to the people! [:P]

Do I get to wear some kind of "Signature Police" uniform? [8]

What about tiny little pixel art things? I can only really think of one person here who has one anyway, but I quite like that little dude! [:D]

Of course, anything larger then a couple of lines of text is just plain rude ? and if everyone started doing sig pics, even tiny ones, it would be really annoying.

sig pics = annoying

Avatars are good enough I think [:D]

there is a web site/forum that i used to go to that has a digital art section. it's pretty much full of "my new sig and avatar" threads(and nobody cared that i posted 3d there dagnamit)

I did originally ask if I could have him a long time ago and was ok?ed. But if the tide of feeling is against them I will remove it.

My personal opinion is just stipulate some limits and enforce those limits.
Something like no more then 100 pixels high x 400 pixels long and less then 10k should keep things pretty inoffensive.

Pantmonger

...I completely forget that yours was even there, and no, I don't have a problem with something that sort of size at all.

yeah i forgot about yours too. i guess cos it dosnt draw attention to itself. though if everyone had one they might start fill out the page.

Pantmongers isn't offensively large, I personally like it, its the big sad banner ones that s*$t me.

Oh and it's his creation. [:P]

Im on your side Pants [:P] I also forgot about that little guy.

Normal text size on firefox is about 22px a line, so three lines of text or a 64px by 400px should be plenty.

Also there are some people with 5 line signatures... *looks at HazarD and Anuxinamoon* where they could be two lines or so if the text was to be spread horizontally. And noone seems to use a smaller font size in their sigs either.

Souri: You should probably write up a well defined signature policy :) I will personally contact those who have excruciating large images in the time being.

quote:Originally posted by redwyre

Also there are some people with 5 line signatures... *looks at HazarD and Anuxinamoon* where they could be two lines or so if the text was to be spread horizontally.

Souri: You should probably write up a well defined signature policy :) I will personally contact those who have excruciating large images in the time being.

But take into account that those people who have 5 line sigs are also Sumea sponsers :) I personally think that for helping to keep sumea running I can survive with a few extra lines of text.

In terms of setting up strict policies on sigs I hope you don't. Sumea has always been lax and open to what ever. I just don't like the idea of starting to hand out rules to everyone about how big a sig must be.

I think it would just be worth keeping an eye out and if anyone has anything really large just sending them a nice PM asking if they would mind shrinking the size.

True Jacana but I personally hate sifting through millions of lines of text or pointless images to find the next post, no matter who it is.

I guess its more about being considerate to your other Sumeans, no matter your status, another thing I would have hoped Sumea was about. [:)]

I've always wondered why there isn't an option to just not load peoples sig's on forums if you don't want to see them?

Maybe someone should think of a way of doing that. [:P]

I'm not trying to be an ass here, but if there aren't rules, then some people take advantage of the situation. Once when the community here was small and close, it wasn't needed... but Sumea is getting big! But perhaps "policy" was too strong. How about some guidelines instead? And it's not just about the signatures, it's the whole forum needs a posting guidelines just to future-proof.

Edit: Oh, and the orginal poster has removed the huge image so I am content to return to lurking the forums.

Pantmonger: I never even noticed your mantis! I must have rolled a 1 on my spot check or something..

I reduced my sig size, just 'cause I can (it was stupidly too big anyway, I just never realised...... must put more skill points on spot)

And if I can figure out how to put a link up on my sig, I could be rid of another line! [:D]

We're currently tossing around the possibility of the next challenge being related to the [url="http://www.sumea.com.au/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=33"]Sumea mod[/url]. So, no fixed date just yet.

I may have a new sponsor who's interested running a competition here, so I'm just waiting to see how that goes through before I set a definate date on a new Sumea challenge.

ok thanks guys. I'm hoping the theme isnt directed at the mod. No offense to you guys or the mod, I just havent really been involved in it and it would give an unfair advantage to people who have.

Just my 2cents

I'm sure I'd enter anyway regardless of what the theme was [:D]

good point, although I'm sure the judging will be based solely on the spec/criteria rather than needing any background on the mod.

From the modeler challenges I've seen they all relate around making models for unreal, and quake type games.
Has anyone had the thought of designing a Challenge around a PSP or DS game?
Basically challenging people to model with a very small amount of poly's and textures.

We?ve done non unreal/quake challenges. Challenge 5 was to make something for aimed at the 6-12 year old market. [url]http://www.sumea.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1363[/url]

Like most people, at the end of the day I don?t really mind what we do. I just think the main thing is to do something that closely represents what a professional modeller might be working on in the industry. Something to improve industry appropriate skills.

If not mod related, my vote is for mecha! [:D]

Then I strongly suggest Normal Mapping, its already been in use for 18 months + in the industry. But if we are to stick with something mod related that pretty much slays that idea - or we could leave the normal maps off and whack the textured models into the game.

Sounds like a good idea. Though I?m too sure how useful a live chat session would be, as opposed to something that is not in real time. It?s just good to have the QA always available for anyone to read at any time.

Something that I?d love to see, is a mini questionnaire compiled from all the non-industry folk, which is open for any developers to answer. So you?d have a thread where everyone lists questions they would like to ask developers, and then a compiled list is placed on a special page with responses from developers being added as they are submitted.

Kind of like the portfolio questionnaire: [url]http://www.sumea.com.au/sarticle.asp?art_ID=16[/url]

Or something similar; have a ?developer question of the week? kind of thing. Each week is a new question on the front page open for any developers to answer, which all get added to the special page.

I'm sure this kind of thing would be found very useful to many people. At the very least it could be entertaining. [:)]

all those ideas sound good to me. if it were to be a live chat it should be recorded so anyone can read over it again in the future.

a question of the week sounds cool, hmm, that's an idea - gamasutra does a simular thing. might be a cool thing for souri to do as well - a general games related question open to anyone (not just developers). ok, off topic but the topic lead me to it...

anyway: yes, i like the idea [:)]

Whoops! Missed this thread.. sounds cool!

I'd definately be keen for a live chat session if some people are up for it. The recording of it is also a great idea Livewire, i also think it could be used as a base to be cleaned up and presented as the Q&A type thing you mentioned Palantir.

So whens good for people ?

I think I only have about 10-15 small shirts left. I might do another round of shirts, but it really depends on the demand for it.

I want a Sumea mug ? now that would be cool [:D]

I bet if you had a little add for Sumea merchandise on the front page you?d make a fortune!
?Help support Sumea. Buy a mug, or a shirt, or a Sumea doll? [;)]

Ooooo I want a pull-string talking Souri doll!

i will buy a shirt and a mug... but dont know about the pull-string doll....

i would need an large/x-large shirt though.. i know a few others who would be keen on some shirts .... could guarantee another 3 or 4 purchases..

Yeah, I'd buy a shirt if there were x-large available (?cause I?m such an Arnie and all)..

Don't want a pull-string Souri doll though [:P]. Hmm, it's a worry that Jacana wants one [:0]
[;)]

surely it would be an action figure - pull the string and any offensive posts in your forum are edited out...

Oh but it would say really cool random things when it was hung-over. Kinda like at Freeplay ;) It really would be a cool doll.

You just want one to poke pins into it [:(]

I would also buy a Sumea mug :)

Im definately up for a mug - i think mugs are on the list of things to do Souri [:P]

A sumea mug would be pretty cool :)

Yeh, I don't know why it's doing that. The site hangs for a minute when someone is sending mail via Sumea, so I've turned all subscriptions off in all the message threads (apart from the jobs section), although I haven't been able to see if there are any improvements because I've been away for most of this week.

I've fixed a few things on the site, and changed the way the forum sends out emails, and I've noticed the site hasn't gone down on me for the last 2 weeks. Has anyone else noticed an improvement?

Ok, for some reason the site is shutting down with a Service Unavailable message. It usually lasts for a few seconds at a time (I'm guessing the server automatically resets itself and then all is ok again). Not exactly sure what's causing this, but I am on it. [:o] (I've just removed some of the features I implemented over the last few days just in case [:(])

Are they using Windows95 as the sumea server Souri? [:)] Was down rather a lot earlier today.

I've noticed that too, although I'm certain the problem is from their end. I haven't been able to access my control panel for sumea or sumea's email box for long periods of time today. Might be that they're working on the server.

I just got these emails the other day, about a week late [:(!]. So yeh, last weeks outtage was definately from their end.

quote:
Dear Customer,

This e-mail message is to inform you the Issue with your Server has been resolved.

Completed: 9/22/2005 4:58:18 PM

Issue Notes:
9/22/2005 4:58:00 PM

The server is back online and working properly. You should be able to access your Web site and perform administrative tasks as usual.

If you experience any issues, please contact the support team.

Thank you for your patience during the resolution of this issue.

9/22/2005 3:40:18 PM - Dear Valued Customer,

The server is back online and working properly. You should be able to access your Web site and perform administrative tasks as usual.

We will continue to monitor your server until the close of business on 9/22/05 for any further issues. If you experience any issues, please contact the support team.

Thank you for your patience during the resolution of this issue.

9/22/2005 2:51:43 PM -

The server is back online and working properly. You should be able to access your Web site and perform administrative tasks as usual.

We will continue to monitor your server for any further issues. If you experience any issues, please contact the support team.

Thank you for your patience during the resolution of this issue.

9/22/2005 12:23:29 PM -

The repair is now complete and the server is back online. You should be able to access your Web site and perform administrative tasks as usual.

We will continue to monitor your server for any further issues. If you experience any issues, please contact the support team.

Thank you for your patience during the resolution of this issue.

9/21/2005 2:56:27 PM - This server is not accepting any SQL connections. This issue is currently under investigation.

Solution Notes:
9/22/2005 4:58:18 PM -

The server is back online and working properly. You should be able to access your Web site and perform administrative tasks as usual.

If you experience any issues, please contact the support team.

Thank you for your patience during the resolution of this issue.

As for todays outtage, I have NFI.

Yeh, I know the site's been unavailable for most of today. It's been frustrating. I've emailed my hosting server twice already, the first time they answered saying the issue was resolved - they had simply just visited the site once and it was working fine for them. And that was all that went into that. I just got home and as soon as I got onto the site, it was offline who who knows how long. I hope they fix this out real soon.

I'm sure they'll fix it quickly and efficiently, afterall, you're a valued customer - they even tell you! [:)]

pb

"The reason why your website has been off and on recently is because our system administrators has been doing some test and maintenance in our servers that they will need to reboot the application pool for 1 minute, then put the site back online."

They must be resetting the server every 3 minutes because I can't use the site for more than 1 minute at a time before the stinking thing gives me another Server Unavailable error. The last few days have been unbelievable, and I'm seriously considering moving to another web host provider.

Guys, please let me know if you get any Server Unavailable errors whilst I have closed off the rest of the site. Thanks.

ROFL @ welcome page message :)

Im still having the occasional problem - even with the link straight to the forum. This is the first time ive been able to get in today.. [:(]

Yeh, I had some problems when it was just the forum too, but it was running much better (staying up for longer periods of time). So anyway, I've put the rest of the site back online and things seem to have magically improved. The site still goes down, but not every 3 minutes like Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.

All signs seem to point the problem at their end. I'm making a guess but it looks like they did a major patch/update to the server last week and they're still working out the kinks. Service Unavailable usually means they're resetting the server or sloppy website code that's using up all the allocated memory. It's definately not the latter because you'd run out of memory after a while, but not every 3 minutes (unless you've done something pretty shocking). Just in case, I've gone through every page making sure I've declared all my variables and recordsets and closed them off properly. For a few hundred people that visit the site at a time, even not closing a few variables properly shouldn't be that much a problem.

Anyway, I got my third technical support response (on Saturday) and they pretty did the same thing previously... "I visited the site for a few seconds, it worked fine. Support issue closed." [:p]

I have had zero problems with ilisys as a host. Quite pricey, but in 2 years no problems. They will always send emails out at least 7 days before hand of a notice if anything is likely to be on the piss for an hour or so, and even then its usually at about 2 - 3am in the morning.

So if your thinking of changing Souri I can reccomend them. [:)]

Perhaps try for somewhere where they have amazing sysadmins and host on a high availability Solaris or Linux cluster. Likely to be expensive [:(] I guess the current host is on Windows and IIS?

Yep, Windows and IIS. I think I'll save myself some headaches by staying on an NT server. Getting adjusted to a Linux server and replacing all the specific components I use for the site will be a bit of a hassle. If I could turn back time, I would've developed the site with PHP/MySQL on a Linux server. Heck, I was considering changing to asp.net until I realised I don't have the time to figure it all out [;)]

Been doing some reading and it's probable that the webhost moved Sumea to another shared server where the allocated resources are much lower (memory and cpu) for each hosted site (so they can cram more sites onto a shared server). Although that doesn't explain why the site gets another error only 10 seconds after the server's been reset. I've gone through all the pages on the site checking and rechecking things, but the only recent thing I've added was Sumea Concepts and I don't see how that could be causing the site to go offline all the time. I'm using the site at 4am, and it's going offline like every 2 minutes [:(!]

*shakes fist at webhost*

For crying out loud, I've only put two pages back up (the main page, and the news page), and I'm still getting the Service Unavailable error. I'm strongly doubting it's a problem from my end.

*HUGS SOURI* We do all appreciate the effort and headaches you are going through to solve this problem. Maybe just take a day or so off if it bugs you too much?

I think I may be developing a stomach ulcer from all this stress..*

It's hard to figure out what exactly is the problem. It could even be another dos attack. I remember Sumea had a couple attacks a few years ago which cause a bit of downtime, but our previous ISP had the courtesy to let us know and fix that up themselves. Looking at the Sumeans online count on the front page, it's pretty odd to see the numbers jump from 60 to 500 in a matter of minutes.

* yes, I know. :/

quote:Originally posted by Souri

Yep, Windows and IIS. I think I'll save myself some headaches by staying on an NT server.

You think Microsoft save you headaches!? [:D] I know what you mean btw, porting would be a pain.

It's funny how the site magically fixed itself up. Told you it wasn't from my end [:X]

***applause*** from the gallery. Thanks for all the efforts and bald spots thus caused.

That's the old contact page. The new one is at http://www.sumea.com.au/scontact.asp . I'm not sure why your pictures aren't uploading. I'll get rid of that upload metre script which doesn't seem to be working, but I'm not sure if that will help.
In the meantime, can you attach your image to a message here, I will upload it for you.

well im not sure that i can upload here, but i can tell you where to get the images from.

www.scorpiontail.com/programming/images/terrain-pic.jpg
www.scorpiontail.com/programming/images/terrain-skybox.jpg

Thanks.

Ha ha ha ha.

Whilst Souri's reply was diplomatic and tactfull I bet if I squint real hard and read between the lines I can see exactly what he wanted to say to the toss pot instead [;)]

Come on xxxxx how hard is it to sign up with your CORRECT email acount that 99.999% of ISP's give you with your internet deal.

o_O

someone like that is probably better off not on these forums anyway. at least better off for the rest of us.

I'm sure their are problems with allowing free e-mail users to registered. But alot of artists including myself don't have home internet and don't have an ISP e-mail. Also I'm thinking of AIE students that also have net access at the AIE but no e-mail address and being student maybe unable to pay for an internet connection.

He maybe a little over the top but he has a point. Maybe something little to review, as I think this site is a huge Australian resource to up and comers.

I accept any email address that isn't from yahoo, hotmail etc, so if you apply with your work or AIE email address, that's no problem. If you're a regular to the forum here, I will make exceptions. And to tell you the truth, if he wrote an explanation as to why he doesn't have an internet account with a proper email address, without being abusive, then I'd consider it too.

But this is the latest in abusive emails from people who want to register with a hotmail account, didn't read the bit next to the email textbox that says "** no free web based email address (e.g Hotmail, Yahoo etc).", and then when I respond with the standard "sorry" reply, get incredibly abusive. The attitude that some people have is just amazing. It's like they feel it's their goddamn right to have an account here and should be waived the ONLY requirement that I provide for registration.

Couldnt agree with you more Souri.

For someone not prepared to spend ( what is it nowadays ? ) $20 for an internet connection and setup an email account to seek recognition and possibly employment to display there work probably arent that dedicated anyway.

Too many people expect the free and easy ride - its a very simple request, and I seriously cannot see a problem at all. Stick with your guns.

Perhaps you should write an email back stating " Yes this is definately an exclusive club site, only NASA scientists and Michaelangelo's allowed " [:p]

quote:Originally posted by HazarD
[Perhaps you should write an email back stating " Yes this is definately an exclusive club site, only NASA scientists and Michaelangelo's allowed "

Doh!!!! Does that mean you are gonna ban me :(

But, but....he will choose to have a poor opinion of this site, Souri....you CANT let that happen!

........
.....
...

quote:Originally posted by Souri
But this is the latest in abusive emails from people who want to register with a hotmail account, didn't read the bit next to the email textbox that says "** no free web based email address

...time to take the email out of the equation then... a couple of lines of javascript validating the email should solve that little problem once and for all.

Oh, and he's right about it not being a "club" - I noticed that bit on the registration page that says "A Sumea account is an unassailable right granted to every human being with a pulse."

Jacana : The sumea user base would be close on nil if souri followed my maniacal plan - its probably not such a bright idea after all doh! [:(]

quote:HazarD said:
Perhaps you should write " only NASA scientists and Michaelangelo's allowed " [:P]

...

The sumea user base would be close on nil if souri followed my maniacal plan

Actually, if Souri followed HazarD?s plan, the site would only allow for people who can?t convert metric into imperial, and ninja turtles?
[;)]

ninja turtles? oh thats me! phew i thought i was gonna be kicked out for a minute there....

When I did my Electrical Engineering study I did a lot of subjects with Avionics/Aerospace Engineers - ie: "Rocket Scientists". Means I am quite sure that Rocket Science really - well - isn't.

Meanwhile I'll polish up my halfshell...

you havent done a poll on who wants the office of film and literature to enable games to get an R rating recently have you?

yeah i think that was done at some point... or maybe it was just a forum discussion. You could allways do the PSP vs DS thing (with like a few more options like "i dont want either" "im sticking with my old GBA" etc)

Makk should be president of the universe because....
A. He is super cool
B. He is super smart
C. He is super funky
D. All of the above
E. I didnt vote for D, but I secretly think thats the correct answer

F. He is my illegitimate father.

No! that's impossible!!!!

G. he is helping me set the trend for eye themed avatars

Poll:
So many Sumean?s have eye themed avatars because:
A. They look cool
B. We are an egotistical bunch
C. Something to do with being arty
D. They are copying Makk
E. They are copying MoonUnit
F.

Pantmonger is:

A: not the Messiah.
B: a very naughty boy.
C: his own illegitimate father due to a wierd timeloop!! [:O]
D: standing behind me with a big knife......arghh!!! I didn't mean the wise crack about the gaffer tape and the donkey...nooo..please .....gurgle.....

Need some suggestions for a new vote question/set of answers on the main page [:X]

Have you done a 3D software poll yet?

"What software do you prefer to use to build 3D models?"

- 3D Studio Max
- Cinema 4D
- Lightwave
- Maya
- Wings 3D
- XSI
- Zbrush

ect ect...

We had something similar [url="http://www.sumea.com.au/svotes.asp?id=9"]about 3 years ago[/url] [:D] Might be worth trying again.

Are you HD ready for the "next gen"?

What sort of Home Cinema vision do you use for gaming?:

- HD CRT
- HD Plasma/LCD
- HD Projector
- SD CRT
- SD Plasma/LCD
- SD Projector

Where do you ultimately want to end up in games?

- Company support (HR/QA/secretarial)
- The grunt (coder/artist/etc)
- A grunt lead (director/lead programmer or artist)
- Management (external to content creation)
- Company management (CEO/founder/owner)
- The sidelines (Hobbyist/enthusiast)

The most important aspect of producing good graphics is:

- greater texture sizes and poly budgets
- the latest hardware accelerated features
- consistent art direction
- as much cleavage as possible

The most important skill for new game artists is:

- Modelling clean and optomised mesh
- Realistic texturing
- Believable and fluid animation
- traditional based art skills
- Jack of all trades, master of none

how fast internet connection?

-[V]-56 kbit & <
-[:)]-256 kbit
-[;)]-512 kbit
-[8D]-1.5 mbit
-[:0]-6 mbit
-[8]-12 mbit & >

Do you buy mobile phone games?
Bought more than 5
Bought 2-5
Bought 1
No
Would if my phone was cooler

The width is changed via javascript, but I'm not sure if you can change the number of rows of textbox forms via javascript as well? I will have to look it up, but I don't think you can...

LOL - Damn our cover is blown! fall back!

Whoops! Fixed.

wow great to hear, good stuff kalescent studios and ofcourse souri

Kudos (it's latin for "props") to all involved :)

Thanks for all the hard work.

[:D] I (and I'm sure all Sumea Forum users) appreciate the forum greatly, so it's super good to see support for the site.

You can do it like this:
(url="http://www.address.com)The address description(/url)

use square brackets []'s instead of ()'s though...

sweet, thanks

Ah, thanks for that. Actually, none of the navigation links worked on that page. [:0]

We already have a java IRC chat applet happening [url="http://www.sumea.com.au/sumeachat/login.htm"]here[/url]. You could make it so you can select different channels etc, but I think we have enough problem filling in the main room with people [;)]

Hmm my forum password doesn't work on other parts of Sumea, including
this java applet. Grumble.

As far as I know thats because they have nothing to do with each other. the main Sumea part has your password for your profile on Sumea. When as the Forum is connected to Sumea but is just adding to it so you need another password. As for the Chat it is linked to IRC again linking to somewhere else so that needs a different password again.

Yeh, the forum is a seperate thing with its own database, that's why you need another password for it. I didn't develope the forum, however, I could've developed Sumea around it so that you only need one login detail, but I didn't want to risk depending on it in case the forum died development wise and I'd have to switch etc
The IRC applet just puts you onto an IRC server, and like the text says, you don't need a password entry for that at all. The IRC server has some functions where you can register your nick and tie a password to it, in case you don't want anyone else using your nick. You can leave the password textfield blank if you haven't registered your nick and still get on #sumea.

If passwords are annoying, you should just get Firefox to remember them all for you. I have tonnes of passwords and login details for lots of websites, but I haven't had to type any of it in apart from the first time. Firefox can store it and paste it in the fields for you everytime you visit the site. It's quite handy!

IE can do this too i believe, but i wouldn't use it, feels to risky to have my passwords stored anywhere other than inside my head :P
CYer, Blitz

How does he know it doesn't work ? [:D]..
Reinvigorate creates some logs for me, and I check it regularly. It's still working.

btw did you get that email I sent you??

ha ha ha ha awesome, nice to know im thought of :P ;)

Ah, ok. I didn't know about ! Very handy. I did a quick fix and it's working fine now. Thanks for the tip! [:)]

Yeh, some idiot posted the link in the comments. Thanks for letting me know.

Ah ok, cool, saves you from getting in trouble from some parents or other webmasters atleast [;)].

Yeh, the site does get read by a mixed audience (developers, students, people researching on local game development such as parents, government, media etc).

The anonymous comments posting has been a mixed blessing. I do hope that the language can tone down a bit, with less personal attacks and flaming, but more of the good discussions (and there have been some great discussion). There've been also a tonne of trolls though, like the idiot posting that offensive link, and others posting jibberish or outright offensive and unrelated comments just for the heck of it.

I might put in a "report this offensive comment" button that people can click so I can fix problems asap.

quote:Originally posted by Souri

I might put in a "report this offensive comment" button that people can click so I can fix problems asap.

Sounds like a plan, and perhaps an IP logger when comments are posted? [:p]

Maybe.. I dunno, I don't think I could be assed to send an email with someone's IP address to the abuse department of their ISP, and I'm sure they couldn't be buggered looking through their logs to find out who it was, especially if it were a dialup person. Although if things get worse, I'll take other measures instead, and then that one if it gets real bad.

If you capture IPs you can easily delete repeat abuse and even ban that IP from adding comment/accessing the site. Might act as a deterrent too. Also you could use if for the polls.. you can just keep on voting..

I don't think I will be capturing IP's for every comment/vote because, as you'd imagine, it would add too much bloat to the database. If the problem gets bad, I'll just put up some options in the admin so volunteers can edit the offensive stuff out themselves.

Capturing IP won't be good for voting - it'll mean that those behind company IP's will only be able to make 1 vote total.

[url="http://www.kamioekaki.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16"]This is the place where I used to help set up mine[/url]..

The latest version of Paintchat (the one in that tutorial uses an old one) looks a bit different, and some of the text boxes are placed differently or requires other values. If you need any help with that, I can send you what I put in my settings...

btw, this is only one of the two ways to run Paint Chat. This way is how most people run it - you need your computer online to host the chat, so you need to download the appropriate version if you do it this way.

oh my gosh, thank you very much, Souri! =)

*goes to setup paintchat*