Sumea Challenge #4 -3D-'David Coen'- Challenger #8

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this was the alternative design i had been working on.....

ahh, Aziabel, the great sprit who appears as a little child, a Grand Duke of the Infernal Empire (sic. Faust)

very interesting concept, good luck :)

Hey Kutna Hora!! I've been there!!
Its an amazing place, creepy but amazing, I also went to an Ossuary in Rome, full of dead mummified Cappucino Monks!? Cooooool.

I really like this concept David, especially the first one, the hands on his head are great and that loin cloth, ooh...ahhh.
So thats what my demon would give birth too hey. [:P]

Please, please I implore you, make this one shine.

i love the first concept dave that will really work out well [:)] good to see u enter in the challenge too [:)]

thanks Malus/ Ninja/ Sorceror Bob.

as i said, the aim of this is texture practice, getting tablet tomorrow....

Malus, i will try to make it shine, but as always there are other things demanding my time, right now it is the final push to get all the game artwork for my main contract done...

will spend a little more time playing with the concept, but the first one is getting pretty close... the four arms would be fun in a game, but i don't think i could get them to look as good as a classical humanoid model (that sort of scale surface eats up a lot of surface space)....

[img]http://www.sumea.com.au/simages2/7_azia_prev00.jpg[/img]

that 2nd concept...do it up hipoly and submit it to the cgtalk challenge going at the moment :)

its going well

Well now, don?t you have a morbid baby fetish. [V]

[img]http://www.sumea.com.au/simages2/7_azia_prev01.jpg[/img]
wow, half a day so far on the textures, getting use to my new wacom tablet. sure beat the hell out of left handed mouse drawing....

@goodgod, well, i guess i could have done the usuall bull man with horns, but that didn't interest me that much... to me hell would be more phycologically deranged....

wow. cool.

Yeah, well I guess you're right about the deranged baby. It is scary, and your textures are looking good. I was just joking about the baby fetish. I know that?s not all you do.[;)][;)]

Trying out geodisic modelling Dave?
Still prefer the emaciatted look of the first concept, this looks a little fat in comparison, also whats happening with the flags? especially the bottom left corner.

The skulls on the flags are blocky too, maybe just take 1 or 2 out and add there polys betwen the others?

Textures looking good so far, looking forward to seeing those runes on his belly.

Looking pretty cool. Those skulls look a little repetitive, perhaps modify the uv mapping a bit to make them look a little less regular.

Nice work man.
I like the mini skulls you have textured, they are done well.
However the black bit under the chin is a bit too black.
Usually the darker the area on a skin tone, the stronger the saturation will be. I did a very quick paintover to show you.
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~rowanfamily/paint.jpg[/img]
Here I chose a deep brown (based on the general tone of the face) and just painted over some of the black parts. I also increased the highlight of the eye to pop it out a bit more.
I hope this is of some help [:)]

thanks for the comments

pic updated.... going to need to catch up with some real work for a few days now though....

thanks makk, hadn't noticed that....

malus, yeap, you got me, for the last 700+ models or so i have been "Trying out geodisic modelling"....

looking very nice man! huge improvement !

what sort of wacom did u get?

Whats geodisic modeling Malus?

[img]http://www.sumea.com.au/simages2/7_azia_prev06.jpg[/img]

@Idaho wacom intuos2 6x8... didn't get it the cheapest, but the most convienient.

@shadow panda, geodisic (according to me) is a mathematical definition reffering to geting the shortest possible straight line segments to represent a curved surface. i would describe my modeling as vertex by vertex, and i use a few topographical aspects of geodesic structures to help this process.... (as it gives the lowest breaking angle between the same number of triangles than any other form of modelling)

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PHwooooar that cloth looks awesome man !!!! its looking nice dave [:)]

Love that cloth... very nice. Not sure how it would look in-game if it went through different lighting environments, but I love it!

his lighting on that pik is not that intense so it should come up ok in a game environment. Man imagine using HDRI on that baby for the money shot the skin will come up so nicely !!!!

Those eyes are freaking me out, but that's good I think [:)]. How did you get the cloth patterning to deform well over the creases, did you paint directly over the creases or create a flat pattern and then liquify it or something? Good work, that area and the face looks very sharp for a 512 tex.

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well, i think i disqualified myself. there was no way i was going to get the tattoo on the flag into the creaces by hand so i used photoshop's 'displace' filter, which to my reading of the rules it a 'no no'... but anyway, here is Aziabel, Grand Duke of the Infernal Empire, 3500 triangles, 512x512 texture. I don't think it is finished, after putting so much work into the flag texture all the other textures look unfinished, so might leave it for a few days....

_edit, spelling

Why do you think that the use of a displacment filter would be a no no.

quote:
3500 polygons (tris)
1 x 512 or 4 x 256 texture sheet(s)
alpha map allowed.
no photosourcing, no cannabalism, no fan art models.

Thats was the only list of tech limits I knew of, did someone tack one on when I was not watching.

Pantmonger

Filters are fine, just no photosourcing.
Don't know were you got that idea man, your fine to go. [:)]

Looks good David especially the texture on the flag and the burn, still would have liked to see it closer to your original concept and those feet just look tacked on but overall very cool.

Even if you used a photo for the displacement map, I doubt it matters. It rocks, I have to try that technique.

The only thing that bugs me about it is the sword. To me it looks like it's shiethed in clear acrylic.

oh, though that _ALL_ the textures had to be hand drawn as was worried about using filters (the displacemnt map for the flag is the greyscale of the flag, hand drawn....)

Hey dave that is looking great man came up nice on GI... although the skin seems very flat i rekon dirty it up or put skin blotches on it ot more baby flab creases. I know your not finished texturing it im pretty sure it will come up great. Also i rekon the foot seems too puffy [:)]

...so that means we can use lens flares and difference clouds?
>:)

quote:Originally posted by smeg

...so that means we can use lens flares and difference clouds?
>:)

Come here so that I may kill you. :P
But seriously there are uses for difference clouds, (eg, mottle colours and hues for human skin. Use the clouds with differing colours and overlay)

Sorry for the off topic
Pantmonger