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Sumea Challenge #8 - silvermirage

hrrrm,
i'm learning as i go, as this is my first time participating.
i'm sure this will be a valuable experience,
and looking forward to the next four months,

and would like to say to my fellow participants,
gl hf!

Submitted by silvermirage on Fri, 09/06/06 - 12:31 AMPermalink

wow, seems like everyone's been burning the midnight oil.
not to get left behind, here's my concept.

CONCEPT1
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~silvermirage9/images/work/gameart/illus…]

CONCEPT2
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~silvermirage9/images/work/gameart/illus…]

TAURUS, he's a gladiator inspired from that dude that russel crowe killed in the movie,
cant remember his name, but for some reason hes turning out very similar to
the mummy fighter dude from darkstalkers.

i havent decided on the weapon,
as i ran out of space on the paper i didnt bother drawing it as yet,
im thinking along the lines of an axe or a mace, or maybe even a finger shaped poking stick
lol

The second concept is a valkyrie named Edith,
once a protector of God, she was banished due to her jealousy to mankind
she is the wielder of the Longinus, the mythical spear that pierced Christ.

anyway, c&c are most welcome
feel free to suggest alternatives for the weapon too

regs

slvmrg

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Fri, 09/06/06 - 1:03 AMPermalink

Great image. Really like the linework in the image and your character gives off a real sense of bulk and power. Really like the goddess image on the shield, or is it a bracer/buckler?

Maybe a half-moon axe for the weapon so something with a different weapon at each end - eg, a crook for hooking their legs and a bludgeoning weapon at the other end? For some reason, this guys weapon looks like it'd be a bludgeoning weapon. Something that'd break bones as opposed to cleaving someone in half.

Very cool design.

Submitted by Bunny on Fri, 09/06/06 - 1:07 AMPermalink

Nice! I can't put my finger on it but something definitely reminds me of that particular Gladiator character - if you're sticking to that influence maybe go with a chrome finish on the armour?

Something about the proportions doesn't look quite right, especially around the neck and shoulders. I think his pecs are coming together a little too high as well. I'm not sure, it could just be the helmet and the neck guard thingy are confusing me - I'm easily confused.

The finger shaped poking stick is a mighty weapon of terror to be sure.

Submitted by silvermirage on Fri, 09/06/06 - 5:48 AMPermalink

anyone knows how to put in html code in this?
i wanted to make a double column table but doesnt seem to work

Submitted by caseyjones on Fri, 09/06/06 - 10:07 PMPermalink

Great concept dude! Can't wait to see this one in 3D!

-caseyjones

Submitted by silvermirage on Sat, 10/06/06 - 12:09 AMPermalink

JonathanKerr - Thanks buddy, btw thats a shield, and yeah I reckon a bludgeoning weapon is awesome with this character

Bunny - Hehe all's good. Once I start the model maybe its easier to see,
in the mean time, GO THE FINGER SHAPED POKING STICK OF DEATH!!!!!!!!

caseyjones - Thanks man, I can't wait either. ZBrush ing this character should be great.

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 10/06/06 - 12:51 AMPermalink

nice concept and clearly illustrated. My initial thought that it looked Greek Mythology inspired with dose on Ancient Egyptian rather than Roman gladiator. The character you referred to in the movie is, I suspect, Greek inspired, so you must ahve captured a good about of the right features

Regarding the Egyptian aspect (beard style, angular neck guard and hair detail) I think the character would benefit from a remodel of these elements to fit more with the Greek Myth stylin' ...but just my personal opinion - other might disagree.

Bunny commented on the pec too - they are not attached correctly to the arms - would be good to see that detail corrected as his barrel chest is a focus of the design.

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Sat, 10/06/06 - 1:08 AMPermalink

I really like the Egyptian flavour - IMO you should stick with it. Greek and Roman stylings have been done to death and done really well (see God of War). Besides, in those days, the Mediterranean and Greek/Roman empire had a lot to do with each other.

Submitted by silvermirage on Sat, 10/06/06 - 3:41 AMPermalink

JohnN - yeah, the pecs does look a bit off, i didn't notice at first,
anyhow, can;t be bothered fixing it. rather im working on another completely different concept
this time its a female fighter, i'll decide which ones best before commencing modeling.

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 10/06/06 - 4:04 AMPermalink

fair call by JonathanKerr - maybe it could be pushed toward Egyptian more(?). And good to hear you're producing another option too. I think some others might have committed to their first idea too quickly could find themselves with 'design delemmas' in a month or so.

Submitted by openanewworld on Sat, 10/06/06 - 5:24 AMPermalink

nice concept man, looking forward your updates, will you draw the model sheet?

Submitted by silvermirage on Sat, 10/06/06 - 9:13 PMPermalink

have never done a model sheet in my life,
but that's gotta change sometime no?

i'll just wait how the second concept turns out and then decide.

Submitted by Bunny on Wed, 14/06/06 - 4:28 AMPermalink

The anatomy makes a lot more sense in colour, with shading I can see where his head is going and all. I like it. :)

Submitted by silvermirage on Fri, 16/06/06 - 2:52 AMPermalink

ello ello people,

Just a quick update,
been dabbling around in Zbrush today
and did a preview of the man behind the mask

[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~silvermirage9/images/work/gameart/3d_zb…]

I'm still playing around with zbrush as
im still learning the program itself

the second concept is progressing fine too,
but its way too complex which is why i fear i wont be able to
fit it within the 6000 tris budget, damn...

i'll have to alter it when i have some time later,
i'll post it after i colour it.

cheerios,

p.s DO NOT MISS AUSTRALIA VS BRASIL!!! GO SOCCEROOS!

Submitted by caseyjones on Fri, 16/06/06 - 8:58 PMPermalink

Looking pimp dude!
Plus dont get discouraged by the polycount... 6000 is quite a lot. I know I'll be struggling to decide what to spend it all on. I wouldn't mind seeing that second concept all the same.
Keep it up.

-caseyjones

Submitted by shath on Thu, 22/06/06 - 9:17 AMPermalink

looking good, maybe a bit to much forced detail in the face. but your probably going for that because he's old and mummafied

p.s GO THE SOCCEROOS AGAINST CROATIA :)

Submitted by Killa Dee on Sat, 01/07/06 - 2:52 AMPermalink

Great update! love the new concept VGW.

Submitted by silvermirage on Sun, 02/07/06 - 5:53 AMPermalink

hmm,
which concept should i go with guys?
i like them both as much and would appreciate some input from y'all
gonna start low poly and zbrushing session soon after world cup finishes

hehehe

pity australia didnt go through sigh, woulda loved to see that

Submitted by picpoc on Sun, 02/07/06 - 10:43 AMPermalink

yeah it's a shame socceroos didn't get through. Gonna watch games tonight!!! And do some 3d in a meantime. Going for Portugal and then Brazil, got a little pissed off last night when Germany eliminated Argentina? I like the details on Edith but I still prefer Taurus.

Submitted by PeterDavis on Mon, 03/07/06 - 9:47 AMPermalink

i like the second one, mostly because i imagine her to be more limber, with physical actions of more energy, while i image the first concept to be the slow strong character, which isnt visually as interesting to watch.

hrrrm,
i'm learning as i go, as this is my first time participating.
i'm sure this will be a valuable experience,
and looking forward to the next four months,

and would like to say to my fellow participants,
gl hf!


Submitted by silvermirage on Fri, 09/06/06 - 12:31 AMPermalink

wow, seems like everyone's been burning the midnight oil.
not to get left behind, here's my concept.

CONCEPT1
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~silvermirage9/images/work/gameart/illus…]

CONCEPT2
[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~silvermirage9/images/work/gameart/illus…]

TAURUS, he's a gladiator inspired from that dude that russel crowe killed in the movie,
cant remember his name, but for some reason hes turning out very similar to
the mummy fighter dude from darkstalkers.

i havent decided on the weapon,
as i ran out of space on the paper i didnt bother drawing it as yet,
im thinking along the lines of an axe or a mace, or maybe even a finger shaped poking stick
lol

The second concept is a valkyrie named Edith,
once a protector of God, she was banished due to her jealousy to mankind
she is the wielder of the Longinus, the mythical spear that pierced Christ.

anyway, c&c are most welcome
feel free to suggest alternatives for the weapon too

regs

slvmrg

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Fri, 09/06/06 - 1:03 AMPermalink

Great image. Really like the linework in the image and your character gives off a real sense of bulk and power. Really like the goddess image on the shield, or is it a bracer/buckler?

Maybe a half-moon axe for the weapon so something with a different weapon at each end - eg, a crook for hooking their legs and a bludgeoning weapon at the other end? For some reason, this guys weapon looks like it'd be a bludgeoning weapon. Something that'd break bones as opposed to cleaving someone in half.

Very cool design.

Submitted by Bunny on Fri, 09/06/06 - 1:07 AMPermalink

Nice! I can't put my finger on it but something definitely reminds me of that particular Gladiator character - if you're sticking to that influence maybe go with a chrome finish on the armour?

Something about the proportions doesn't look quite right, especially around the neck and shoulders. I think his pecs are coming together a little too high as well. I'm not sure, it could just be the helmet and the neck guard thingy are confusing me - I'm easily confused.

The finger shaped poking stick is a mighty weapon of terror to be sure.

Submitted by silvermirage on Fri, 09/06/06 - 5:48 AMPermalink

anyone knows how to put in html code in this?
i wanted to make a double column table but doesnt seem to work

Submitted by caseyjones on Fri, 09/06/06 - 10:07 PMPermalink

Great concept dude! Can't wait to see this one in 3D!

-caseyjones

Submitted by silvermirage on Sat, 10/06/06 - 12:09 AMPermalink

JonathanKerr - Thanks buddy, btw thats a shield, and yeah I reckon a bludgeoning weapon is awesome with this character

Bunny - Hehe all's good. Once I start the model maybe its easier to see,
in the mean time, GO THE FINGER SHAPED POKING STICK OF DEATH!!!!!!!!

caseyjones - Thanks man, I can't wait either. ZBrush ing this character should be great.

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 10/06/06 - 12:51 AMPermalink

nice concept and clearly illustrated. My initial thought that it looked Greek Mythology inspired with dose on Ancient Egyptian rather than Roman gladiator. The character you referred to in the movie is, I suspect, Greek inspired, so you must ahve captured a good about of the right features

Regarding the Egyptian aspect (beard style, angular neck guard and hair detail) I think the character would benefit from a remodel of these elements to fit more with the Greek Myth stylin' ...but just my personal opinion - other might disagree.

Bunny commented on the pec too - they are not attached correctly to the arms - would be good to see that detail corrected as his barrel chest is a focus of the design.

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Sat, 10/06/06 - 1:08 AMPermalink

I really like the Egyptian flavour - IMO you should stick with it. Greek and Roman stylings have been done to death and done really well (see God of War). Besides, in those days, the Mediterranean and Greek/Roman empire had a lot to do with each other.

Submitted by silvermirage on Sat, 10/06/06 - 3:41 AMPermalink

JohnN - yeah, the pecs does look a bit off, i didn't notice at first,
anyhow, can;t be bothered fixing it. rather im working on another completely different concept
this time its a female fighter, i'll decide which ones best before commencing modeling.

Submitted by Johnn on Sat, 10/06/06 - 4:04 AMPermalink

fair call by JonathanKerr - maybe it could be pushed toward Egyptian more(?). And good to hear you're producing another option too. I think some others might have committed to their first idea too quickly could find themselves with 'design delemmas' in a month or so.

Submitted by openanewworld on Sat, 10/06/06 - 5:24 AMPermalink

nice concept man, looking forward your updates, will you draw the model sheet?

Submitted by silvermirage on Sat, 10/06/06 - 9:13 PMPermalink

have never done a model sheet in my life,
but that's gotta change sometime no?

i'll just wait how the second concept turns out and then decide.

Submitted by Bunny on Wed, 14/06/06 - 4:28 AMPermalink

The anatomy makes a lot more sense in colour, with shading I can see where his head is going and all. I like it. :)

Submitted by silvermirage on Fri, 16/06/06 - 2:52 AMPermalink

ello ello people,

Just a quick update,
been dabbling around in Zbrush today
and did a preview of the man behind the mask

[img]http://members.optusnet.com.au/~silvermirage9/images/work/gameart/3d_zb…]

I'm still playing around with zbrush as
im still learning the program itself

the second concept is progressing fine too,
but its way too complex which is why i fear i wont be able to
fit it within the 6000 tris budget, damn...

i'll have to alter it when i have some time later,
i'll post it after i colour it.

cheerios,

p.s DO NOT MISS AUSTRALIA VS BRASIL!!! GO SOCCEROOS!

Submitted by caseyjones on Fri, 16/06/06 - 8:58 PMPermalink

Looking pimp dude!
Plus dont get discouraged by the polycount... 6000 is quite a lot. I know I'll be struggling to decide what to spend it all on. I wouldn't mind seeing that second concept all the same.
Keep it up.

-caseyjones

Submitted by shath on Thu, 22/06/06 - 9:17 AMPermalink

looking good, maybe a bit to much forced detail in the face. but your probably going for that because he's old and mummafied

p.s GO THE SOCCEROOS AGAINST CROATIA :)

Submitted by Killa Dee on Sat, 01/07/06 - 2:52 AMPermalink

Great update! love the new concept VGW.

Submitted by silvermirage on Sun, 02/07/06 - 5:53 AMPermalink

hmm,
which concept should i go with guys?
i like them both as much and would appreciate some input from y'all
gonna start low poly and zbrushing session soon after world cup finishes

hehehe

pity australia didnt go through sigh, woulda loved to see that

Submitted by picpoc on Sun, 02/07/06 - 10:43 AMPermalink

yeah it's a shame socceroos didn't get through. Gonna watch games tonight!!! And do some 3d in a meantime. Going for Portugal and then Brazil, got a little pissed off last night when Germany eliminated Argentina? I like the details on Edith but I still prefer Taurus.

Submitted by PeterDavis on Mon, 03/07/06 - 9:47 AMPermalink

i like the second one, mostly because i imagine her to be more limber, with physical actions of more energy, while i image the first concept to be the slow strong character, which isnt visually as interesting to watch.