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Sumea Challenge #5 -3D- Mark - Challenger #4

Submitted by Piss Poor on

hey guys
my concept for ?evolution extreme?
not sure if this will be my final concept or not (haven?t decided yet) i?ve had it done for a while now just had some isp trouble.
anyway he has psychic abilities, left is his evolution after 2 red pills and right is after just the one blue pill and of course the one in the middle is the original form.
i'll have the hero up pretty soon.
[img]http://www.markfilippelli.com/concept_art/sidekick.jpg[/img]

Submitted by hobonation on Sat, 07/02/04 - 7:37 PMPermalink

They are awesome! If you change any of them, I will be mighty peeved. I love the pre-evolved ones twig. I think your in with a good chance. :)

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Sat, 07/02/04 - 9:09 PMPermalink

'Tis very cool1 Great evolution going on -- any chance of seeing the 'main character' even if only in concept form?

Submitted by smeg on Sat, 07/02/04 - 10:50 PMPermalink

Cool. Great work with the evolutions.

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Sun, 08/02/04 - 12:08 AMPermalink

It'd be quite cool to see what their powers are. Has he got a name?

Submitted by bullet21 on Sun, 08/02/04 - 12:42 AMPermalink

I love how everything links together, like the twig and d the white markings. Hurry up and model them, c'mon c'mon.

Submitted by MoonUnit on Sun, 08/02/04 - 1:24 AMPermalink

awesome work! very creative!!!

i know the mouth plates are a part of the culture your mimiking but it does look a bit odd in the sketch.

oh nice drawing skills too :P

Submitted by tojo on Sun, 08/02/04 - 6:27 AMPermalink

these rock!

makes me want to model yours not mine!!!

10 out of 10 on the creative side!!

Submitted by Malus on Mon, 09/02/04 - 9:27 PMPermalink

My Favourite so far. [:)]

Submitted by Wizenedoldman on Tue, 10/02/04 - 2:19 AMPermalink

Sweet pics man, I'm oh so jealous. One thing though, I thought the evolution had to follow one single path, and you're saying your guy goes from one blue to two red? Maybe I'm wrong, but I interpreted it as though you would then have to follow on from the blue pill with either another blue or a red one. But this is irrelevant really, cause they look cool.;)

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Tue, 10/02/04 - 10:48 AMPermalink

You can put a blue onto a red - it just means that you might twist some of the blue characteristics. I really like this design, I just wanna see the attacks or maybe the 'hero' (if he has time).

Submitted by Goldenchocobo on Tue, 10/02/04 - 11:58 AMPermalink

If you ever wanted to animate his blue pill form you'd have a bit of trouble having legs that short and feet that large, other than that I think it's awesome (easily my favorite). It'll be tough competing with you.

Submitted by inglis on Tue, 10/02/04 - 12:07 PMPermalink

he'd just walk like marvin the martian :)

Submitted by Piss Poor on Tue, 10/02/04 - 7:26 PMPermalink

Thanks guys it?s always good to get some encouraging comments

Jonathan - I don?t really have a name for him but I figured he would have voodoo style attacks such as causing unexplained pains, take control of and use other characters attacks and a hex/curse that would make opponents have a 25% chance of their attacks not working.
Also I have done the hero and will post him as soon as possible I?m still having some trouble with uploading stuff (I change my isp this week)

Wiz ? I read over what I typed before and it wasn?t really very clear, what I meant is that the one in the middle is the original form if you gave him one red pill he would change into a form that I haven?t drawn, if you gave him another red pill he will change into the form on the left. From the original character again if you gave him one blue pill then he would evolve into the drawing on the right, if you gave him another blue pill then he would evolve again to one that I haven?t drawn??uuuuuuhhh ?.yeah[?], clear as mud

Goldenchocobo ? Like what inglis said, he will have a real penguin type walk, he?s not designed to be fast for melee attacks.

Hope that?s cleared up a few things, I?ll post the hero asap[:)]

Submitted by inglis on Wed, 11/02/04 - 3:50 AMPermalink

the leg stance reminds me of the aliens in "the arrival".

Submitted by MoonUnit on Wed, 11/02/04 - 4:13 AMPermalink

lol yeah i was thinking of a similar thing, an animation with aliens that have backwards legs :P

has quite the "pokemon trainer" look about him, does it really suit the theme of voodo guys? i mean hes a neat design but i reckon you could mesh him better with the "creatues"

Submitted by Aven on Wed, 11/02/04 - 4:32 AMPermalink

Awesome creature design. Very original looking.

I have to agree with MoonUnit about the trainer. He wasn't what I was really expecting. Perhaps someone more tribal?

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Wed, 11/02/04 - 12:12 PMPermalink

Love the pose, the shoes are cool, but there doesn't seem to be a connection between the sidekick and hero. I like how you've incorporated the pill into the image.

Perhaps if you gave him a wooden carved amulet or maybe a mask (like Crash Bandicoot) or something?

Very cool.

Submitted by LiveWire on Thu, 12/02/04 - 2:49 AMPermalink

i think the hero pic is great, suits the sidekick in my oppinion. very pokemon/digimon/etc style hero-sidekick connection. if you somehow understand what i mean.

Submitted by Piss Poor on Thu, 12/02/04 - 6:15 AMPermalink

when i was designing the hero i wasn?t thinking about relating him to the sidekick. i assumed that the sidekick would be one of many (like in pokemon) so the hero would have a separate identity.
i?ll have a bit of a draw and see what i come up with along the tribal line.
i may have gone a little overboard with the lanky stance as well:)

Submitted by Piss Poor on Fri, 13/02/04 - 7:15 PMPermalink

i started to draw a hero concept that was more tribal, but got carried away and started to change it heaps so that is was more like my usual style rather then one that suites the sidekick characters. because of this I?ll probably stick with the original?see what you think anyway.

http://www.markfilippelli.com/concept_art/masai.jpg

Submitted by Aven on Fri, 13/02/04 - 8:19 PMPermalink

If she had a few more items of clothing (seeing as it is a kiddy game), she would be perfect :D Very cool design.

Submitted by Malus on Fri, 13/02/04 - 9:00 PMPermalink

Aven: thats not that far off of what certain tribes would wear.
Doesn't really seem all that offensive to kiddies to me, considering half the tribes are nearly naked.[:P]

Looks really good Mark, can't wait to see your models.
How are things going for you and the other guys since leaving Qantm? Haven't seen any reels come thru our doors.

Submitted by FireFlight on Sat, 14/02/04 - 10:09 PMPermalink

I like the lil ones twig he has, very nice. You went to Qantm did you, thats where I want to go.

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 14/02/04 - 10:24 PMPermalink

I definately like the second tribal hero more than the original one. And i don't think that she does need more clothes coz as Malus said most tribes are fully naked, at least shes covered up wut counts.

Good forbid she's showing her naval :)

Submitted by matias on Sun, 15/02/04 - 2:51 AMPermalink

Oh yeah, I would definitly like to see the second hero/trainer, she fits the part nicely, I know it seems obvious but alot of the time I think the simplest idea works best! Plus I like the second drawing better! Can't wait to see how they come out in the modeling process!

Submitted by MoonUnit on Mon, 16/02/04 - 3:58 AMPermalink

i also like the second trainer

im not sure but i think ur little characters are kinda for your own game thing, the evolution extreme can be adapted a bit. So having the trainer and characters linked up is ok (this is my takings, you want to know for sure ask the people running the comp :P )

Submitted by Piss Poor on Mon, 16/02/04 - 10:07 PMPermalink

Aven ? it wasn?t really the semi-nakedness i was worried about, if you?ve ever watched ?what?s up doc? when it used to be on, you?d see that television companies aren?t that worried about having a scantily clad woman on a kids show. to me the style just doesn?t suit that of the other pic. but then again in final fantasy x that woman has that freaky doll thing, the two together look weird but it works.
everyone seems to prefer this 2nd one so thats the one that i?ll go with.

Malus ? doing good mate, how about you, did you get my e-mail?

Fireflight ? i can only speak for the diploma (because that?s what i did) but i found it excellent. very up to date as well as very helpful and knowledgeable teachers and best of all you have the opportunity to work with programmers on games. but it?s really up to you to get the most out. (can?t stress that enough)

?and here are the wires for the good evolution, still have a few issues with a couple of parts in the mesh. should be able to cut it back a few more polys. i?ve set an allocated amount of polys for each model but i?ll still wait till i?ve done the other 2 just so that i have a better idea of what is need for each design.
btw haven?t done the staff yet

[img]http://www.markfilippelli.com/3d_mesh/sidekick_wires.jpg[/img]

Submitted by Aven on Mon, 16/02/04 - 10:45 PMPermalink

I did not mean to have a go at the trainer at all. As I said, I really like her. I'm sure that small children wont have troubles with her, or will the fathers of the children (well most). The trouble comes from the uptight parents who do have troubles with it. It is funny that you mentioned 'What's Up Doc?', as my mum hated the way the hosts used to dress. The only thing that relaxed her was the fact that they had cartoons and it wasn't just some lame attempt at softcore porn :)

The mesh is looking really good so far.

Submitted by Piss Poor on Tue, 17/02/04 - 12:22 AMPermalink

sorry if i sounded a bit harsh, i took no offence, i know what your saying totally and it's certainly true about uptight parents, i was just making a point as well:)

Posted by Piss Poor on

hey guys
my concept for ?evolution extreme?
not sure if this will be my final concept or not (haven?t decided yet) i?ve had it done for a while now just had some isp trouble.
anyway he has psychic abilities, left is his evolution after 2 red pills and right is after just the one blue pill and of course the one in the middle is the original form.
i'll have the hero up pretty soon.
[img]http://www.markfilippelli.com/concept_art/sidekick.jpg[/img]


Submitted by hobonation on Sat, 07/02/04 - 7:37 PMPermalink

They are awesome! If you change any of them, I will be mighty peeved. I love the pre-evolved ones twig. I think your in with a good chance. :)

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Sat, 07/02/04 - 9:09 PMPermalink

'Tis very cool1 Great evolution going on -- any chance of seeing the 'main character' even if only in concept form?

Submitted by smeg on Sat, 07/02/04 - 10:50 PMPermalink

Cool. Great work with the evolutions.

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Sun, 08/02/04 - 12:08 AMPermalink

It'd be quite cool to see what their powers are. Has he got a name?

Submitted by bullet21 on Sun, 08/02/04 - 12:42 AMPermalink

I love how everything links together, like the twig and d the white markings. Hurry up and model them, c'mon c'mon.

Submitted by MoonUnit on Sun, 08/02/04 - 1:24 AMPermalink

awesome work! very creative!!!

i know the mouth plates are a part of the culture your mimiking but it does look a bit odd in the sketch.

oh nice drawing skills too :P

Submitted by tojo on Sun, 08/02/04 - 6:27 AMPermalink

these rock!

makes me want to model yours not mine!!!

10 out of 10 on the creative side!!

Submitted by Malus on Mon, 09/02/04 - 9:27 PMPermalink

My Favourite so far. [:)]

Submitted by Wizenedoldman on Tue, 10/02/04 - 2:19 AMPermalink

Sweet pics man, I'm oh so jealous. One thing though, I thought the evolution had to follow one single path, and you're saying your guy goes from one blue to two red? Maybe I'm wrong, but I interpreted it as though you would then have to follow on from the blue pill with either another blue or a red one. But this is irrelevant really, cause they look cool.;)

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Tue, 10/02/04 - 10:48 AMPermalink

You can put a blue onto a red - it just means that you might twist some of the blue characteristics. I really like this design, I just wanna see the attacks or maybe the 'hero' (if he has time).

Submitted by Goldenchocobo on Tue, 10/02/04 - 11:58 AMPermalink

If you ever wanted to animate his blue pill form you'd have a bit of trouble having legs that short and feet that large, other than that I think it's awesome (easily my favorite). It'll be tough competing with you.

Submitted by inglis on Tue, 10/02/04 - 12:07 PMPermalink

he'd just walk like marvin the martian :)

Submitted by Piss Poor on Tue, 10/02/04 - 7:26 PMPermalink

Thanks guys it?s always good to get some encouraging comments

Jonathan - I don?t really have a name for him but I figured he would have voodoo style attacks such as causing unexplained pains, take control of and use other characters attacks and a hex/curse that would make opponents have a 25% chance of their attacks not working.
Also I have done the hero and will post him as soon as possible I?m still having some trouble with uploading stuff (I change my isp this week)

Wiz ? I read over what I typed before and it wasn?t really very clear, what I meant is that the one in the middle is the original form if you gave him one red pill he would change into a form that I haven?t drawn, if you gave him another red pill he will change into the form on the left. From the original character again if you gave him one blue pill then he would evolve into the drawing on the right, if you gave him another blue pill then he would evolve again to one that I haven?t drawn??uuuuuuhhh ?.yeah[?], clear as mud

Goldenchocobo ? Like what inglis said, he will have a real penguin type walk, he?s not designed to be fast for melee attacks.

Hope that?s cleared up a few things, I?ll post the hero asap[:)]

Submitted by inglis on Wed, 11/02/04 - 3:50 AMPermalink

the leg stance reminds me of the aliens in "the arrival".

Submitted by MoonUnit on Wed, 11/02/04 - 4:13 AMPermalink

lol yeah i was thinking of a similar thing, an animation with aliens that have backwards legs :P

has quite the "pokemon trainer" look about him, does it really suit the theme of voodo guys? i mean hes a neat design but i reckon you could mesh him better with the "creatues"

Submitted by Aven on Wed, 11/02/04 - 4:32 AMPermalink

Awesome creature design. Very original looking.

I have to agree with MoonUnit about the trainer. He wasn't what I was really expecting. Perhaps someone more tribal?

Submitted by JonathanKerr on Wed, 11/02/04 - 12:12 PMPermalink

Love the pose, the shoes are cool, but there doesn't seem to be a connection between the sidekick and hero. I like how you've incorporated the pill into the image.

Perhaps if you gave him a wooden carved amulet or maybe a mask (like Crash Bandicoot) or something?

Very cool.

Submitted by LiveWire on Thu, 12/02/04 - 2:49 AMPermalink

i think the hero pic is great, suits the sidekick in my oppinion. very pokemon/digimon/etc style hero-sidekick connection. if you somehow understand what i mean.

Submitted by Piss Poor on Thu, 12/02/04 - 6:15 AMPermalink

when i was designing the hero i wasn?t thinking about relating him to the sidekick. i assumed that the sidekick would be one of many (like in pokemon) so the hero would have a separate identity.
i?ll have a bit of a draw and see what i come up with along the tribal line.
i may have gone a little overboard with the lanky stance as well:)

Submitted by Piss Poor on Fri, 13/02/04 - 7:15 PMPermalink

i started to draw a hero concept that was more tribal, but got carried away and started to change it heaps so that is was more like my usual style rather then one that suites the sidekick characters. because of this I?ll probably stick with the original?see what you think anyway.

http://www.markfilippelli.com/concept_art/masai.jpg

Submitted by Aven on Fri, 13/02/04 - 8:19 PMPermalink

If she had a few more items of clothing (seeing as it is a kiddy game), she would be perfect :D Very cool design.

Submitted by Malus on Fri, 13/02/04 - 9:00 PMPermalink

Aven: thats not that far off of what certain tribes would wear.
Doesn't really seem all that offensive to kiddies to me, considering half the tribes are nearly naked.[:P]

Looks really good Mark, can't wait to see your models.
How are things going for you and the other guys since leaving Qantm? Haven't seen any reels come thru our doors.

Submitted by FireFlight on Sat, 14/02/04 - 10:09 PMPermalink

I like the lil ones twig he has, very nice. You went to Qantm did you, thats where I want to go.

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 14/02/04 - 10:24 PMPermalink

I definately like the second tribal hero more than the original one. And i don't think that she does need more clothes coz as Malus said most tribes are fully naked, at least shes covered up wut counts.

Good forbid she's showing her naval :)

Submitted by matias on Sun, 15/02/04 - 2:51 AMPermalink

Oh yeah, I would definitly like to see the second hero/trainer, she fits the part nicely, I know it seems obvious but alot of the time I think the simplest idea works best! Plus I like the second drawing better! Can't wait to see how they come out in the modeling process!

Submitted by MoonUnit on Mon, 16/02/04 - 3:58 AMPermalink

i also like the second trainer

im not sure but i think ur little characters are kinda for your own game thing, the evolution extreme can be adapted a bit. So having the trainer and characters linked up is ok (this is my takings, you want to know for sure ask the people running the comp :P )

Submitted by Piss Poor on Mon, 16/02/04 - 10:07 PMPermalink

Aven ? it wasn?t really the semi-nakedness i was worried about, if you?ve ever watched ?what?s up doc? when it used to be on, you?d see that television companies aren?t that worried about having a scantily clad woman on a kids show. to me the style just doesn?t suit that of the other pic. but then again in final fantasy x that woman has that freaky doll thing, the two together look weird but it works.
everyone seems to prefer this 2nd one so thats the one that i?ll go with.

Malus ? doing good mate, how about you, did you get my e-mail?

Fireflight ? i can only speak for the diploma (because that?s what i did) but i found it excellent. very up to date as well as very helpful and knowledgeable teachers and best of all you have the opportunity to work with programmers on games. but it?s really up to you to get the most out. (can?t stress that enough)

?and here are the wires for the good evolution, still have a few issues with a couple of parts in the mesh. should be able to cut it back a few more polys. i?ve set an allocated amount of polys for each model but i?ll still wait till i?ve done the other 2 just so that i have a better idea of what is need for each design.
btw haven?t done the staff yet

[img]http://www.markfilippelli.com/3d_mesh/sidekick_wires.jpg[/img]

Submitted by Aven on Mon, 16/02/04 - 10:45 PMPermalink

I did not mean to have a go at the trainer at all. As I said, I really like her. I'm sure that small children wont have troubles with her, or will the fathers of the children (well most). The trouble comes from the uptight parents who do have troubles with it. It is funny that you mentioned 'What's Up Doc?', as my mum hated the way the hosts used to dress. The only thing that relaxed her was the fact that they had cartoons and it wasn't just some lame attempt at softcore porn :)

The mesh is looking really good so far.

Submitted by Piss Poor on Tue, 17/02/04 - 12:22 AMPermalink

sorry if i sounded a bit harsh, i took no offence, i know what your saying totally and it's certainly true about uptight parents, i was just making a point as well:)