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Challenge #2 Topic Discussion

Submitted by inglis on

While challenge #1 results are being sorted- thought we could discuss what the topic would be for Sumea Challenge #2.
Post your thoughts.

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

Submitted by inglis on Mon, 24/02/03 - 1:59 AM Permalink

I was thinking of having a topic (e.g. Winter Beasts, Ancient Evil) (just made them up :)) and then everyone can come up with their own character concept for the topic choosen and like before document their process from concept sketch to the final submission.

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

Submitted by adie on Tue, 25/02/03 - 12:57 AM Permalink

yeah i think a topic would be a good idear would give more freedon to the design ..or maybe creature name and what it dose ..(eg name:wesalneck,what it dose:slowly eats brain via ear)

Submitted by Pantmonger on Thu, 27/02/03 - 10:03 PM Permalink

I think that the one thing that needs to be done for the comp regardless of the topic is to set in stone the detail and be as comprehensive as possible. This means we need the following information.

Close date of the Comp: A date and time, can?t be changed once set.
Topic of the Comp: A general statement of what the topic is.
Rules of the Comp: A run down on all the tech aspects, eg.

Polycount
Texture Map number and Size
Max Number of people working on each entry
How original must the design be (entirely new, based off a legend, copied from someones art)
Details about polys, like seamless mesh necessary or not
Details about texture maps, like photo source acceptable or not
List of compulsory shots for entrance, like wire frame, textured, shot of texture map, etc.

And lastly some sort of prize, it only has to be a token thing, but something would be nice.

I think that if these details are worked out and stated at the beginning then there is less confusion in general, and you have clear lines by which you can eliminate someone if the need arises.

Pantmonger

[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/Jagged/GamaPantsWeb.gif[/img]

Submitted by Malus on Thu, 27/02/03 - 10:57 PM Permalink

One more thing a vote within a better time frame.
I know it might be hard getting the industry guys/gals to do that with there limited free time, but if there was a voting deadline then at least they can say wether or not they can help out.

Dean Ferguson - 3D/2D Artist

http://www.inkmancomic.com/dean/portfolio/index.html

Submitted by inglis on Thu, 27/02/03 - 11:23 PM Permalink

i dont think it really matters...
they would just vote for themselves- would be the same result if they didn't vote.

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

Submitted by souri on Fri, 28/02/03 - 10:21 AM Permalink

quote:Originally posted by Pantmonger

And lastly some sort of prize, it only has to be a token thing, but something would be nice.

I've sent emails to a graphics tablet distributor, and a 3ds Max reseller, but I've received no responses.. [:(] graphics tablets/gfx cards/software prizes would be great..

Submitted by inglis on Fri, 28/02/03 - 10:44 AM Permalink

wow souri- they would be some really serious prizes.

how about a big gold star next to your name for a month :p

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Fri, 28/02/03 - 12:11 PM Permalink

I'm looking forward to doing the next challenge.. A prize would be nice, but I think I'd be happy enough to win :)

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Mon, 10/03/03 - 11:30 AM Permalink

Bring on the next challenge!! I dont care what it is, so long as it isn't anime!!

Submitted by souri on Tue, 11/03/03 - 8:58 AM Permalink

For the next challenge, a few more things would definately be required.. Wireframe shots, and multiple angle shots.. probably give models different poses (arms out pose, run pose, some other pose) so challengers can be tested on deformations as well.. so yeh, rig your characters.. just to up the ante a bit... what do you think?
It doesn't look like it's going to happen with prizes.. I am sooo over chasing people up, and I haven't received a reply with any of that stuff.. if anyone wants to chase companies up for prizes for Sumea, be my guest. [:)]..

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Tue, 11/03/03 - 9:25 AM Permalink

I think it sounds good, what about the timeframe?

Submitted by shiptu shaboo on Tue, 11/03/03 - 11:57 AM Permalink

maybe a theme would be good
everybody wants to do beasty creatures because they are fun, but i like to use my stuff for my folio and companies want to see you can make more than monsters.

Submitted by timbrex on Tue, 11/03/03 - 3:49 PM Permalink

I did not get the chance last time to try out for the competition....but next time around I will give it a shot...I hope!
But I agree with Pantmonger...there should be some serious guide lines set.
Lets keep it as real to a gaming senario as possible ( did that make sense)?
Be nice if someone from the Industry could set a challenge...hey!
And maybe the prize could be ......wait for it!...thats right a super-duper job!!!!...or a gold star,...,I like that idea too.
Thank you and goodnight!!!

Submitted by souri on Wed, 12/03/03 - 11:32 AM Permalink

Well, Rod (from Infogrames) is writing something up for you tomorrow.. so stay tuned [:)]

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Wed, 12/03/03 - 11:38 AM Permalink

Is that for the next challenge?

funky bananas!!

Submitted by souri on Thu, 13/03/03 - 1:19 AM Permalink

"Hey, don't thank me... thank the Earth's gravitational pull"..

Yep, it's for the next challenge..

Submitted by rgreen on Fri, 14/03/03 - 4:04 AM Permalink

Challenge is going up now...

Posted by inglis on

While challenge #1 results are being sorted- thought we could discuss what the topic would be for Sumea Challenge #2.
Post your thoughts.

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/


Submitted by inglis on Mon, 24/02/03 - 1:59 AM Permalink

I was thinking of having a topic (e.g. Winter Beasts, Ancient Evil) (just made them up :)) and then everyone can come up with their own character concept for the topic choosen and like before document their process from concept sketch to the final submission.

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

Submitted by adie on Tue, 25/02/03 - 12:57 AM Permalink

yeah i think a topic would be a good idear would give more freedon to the design ..or maybe creature name and what it dose ..(eg name:wesalneck,what it dose:slowly eats brain via ear)

Submitted by Pantmonger on Thu, 27/02/03 - 10:03 PM Permalink

I think that the one thing that needs to be done for the comp regardless of the topic is to set in stone the detail and be as comprehensive as possible. This means we need the following information.

Close date of the Comp: A date and time, can?t be changed once set.
Topic of the Comp: A general statement of what the topic is.
Rules of the Comp: A run down on all the tech aspects, eg.

Polycount
Texture Map number and Size
Max Number of people working on each entry
How original must the design be (entirely new, based off a legend, copied from someones art)
Details about polys, like seamless mesh necessary or not
Details about texture maps, like photo source acceptable or not
List of compulsory shots for entrance, like wire frame, textured, shot of texture map, etc.

And lastly some sort of prize, it only has to be a token thing, but something would be nice.

I think that if these details are worked out and stated at the beginning then there is less confusion in general, and you have clear lines by which you can eliminate someone if the need arises.

Pantmonger

[img]http://home.iprimus.com.au/evilbunny/Jagged/GamaPantsWeb.gif[/img]

Submitted by Malus on Thu, 27/02/03 - 10:57 PM Permalink

One more thing a vote within a better time frame.
I know it might be hard getting the industry guys/gals to do that with there limited free time, but if there was a voting deadline then at least they can say wether or not they can help out.

Dean Ferguson - 3D/2D Artist

http://www.inkmancomic.com/dean/portfolio/index.html

Submitted by inglis on Thu, 27/02/03 - 11:23 PM Permalink

i dont think it really matters...
they would just vote for themselves- would be the same result if they didn't vote.

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

Submitted by souri on Fri, 28/02/03 - 10:21 AM Permalink

quote:Originally posted by Pantmonger

And lastly some sort of prize, it only has to be a token thing, but something would be nice.

I've sent emails to a graphics tablet distributor, and a 3ds Max reseller, but I've received no responses.. [:(] graphics tablets/gfx cards/software prizes would be great..

Submitted by inglis on Fri, 28/02/03 - 10:44 AM Permalink

wow souri- they would be some really serious prizes.

how about a big gold star next to your name for a month :p

lachlan inglis
Showreel WIP: http://effectism.com/sample/

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Fri, 28/02/03 - 12:11 PM Permalink

I'm looking forward to doing the next challenge.. A prize would be nice, but I think I'd be happy enough to win :)

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Mon, 10/03/03 - 11:30 AM Permalink

Bring on the next challenge!! I dont care what it is, so long as it isn't anime!!

Submitted by souri on Tue, 11/03/03 - 8:58 AM Permalink

For the next challenge, a few more things would definately be required.. Wireframe shots, and multiple angle shots.. probably give models different poses (arms out pose, run pose, some other pose) so challengers can be tested on deformations as well.. so yeh, rig your characters.. just to up the ante a bit... what do you think?
It doesn't look like it's going to happen with prizes.. I am sooo over chasing people up, and I haven't received a reply with any of that stuff.. if anyone wants to chase companies up for prizes for Sumea, be my guest. [:)]..

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Tue, 11/03/03 - 9:25 AM Permalink

I think it sounds good, what about the timeframe?

Submitted by shiptu shaboo on Tue, 11/03/03 - 11:57 AM Permalink

maybe a theme would be good
everybody wants to do beasty creatures because they are fun, but i like to use my stuff for my folio and companies want to see you can make more than monsters.

Submitted by timbrex on Tue, 11/03/03 - 3:49 PM Permalink

I did not get the chance last time to try out for the competition....but next time around I will give it a shot...I hope!
But I agree with Pantmonger...there should be some serious guide lines set.
Lets keep it as real to a gaming senario as possible ( did that make sense)?
Be nice if someone from the Industry could set a challenge...hey!
And maybe the prize could be ......wait for it!...thats right a super-duper job!!!!...or a gold star,...,I like that idea too.
Thank you and goodnight!!!

Submitted by souri on Wed, 12/03/03 - 11:32 AM Permalink

Well, Rod (from Infogrames) is writing something up for you tomorrow.. so stay tuned [:)]

Submitted by Sorceror Bob on Wed, 12/03/03 - 11:38 AM Permalink

Is that for the next challenge?

funky bananas!!

Submitted by souri on Thu, 13/03/03 - 1:19 AM Permalink

"Hey, don't thank me... thank the Earth's gravitational pull"..

Yep, it's for the next challenge..

Submitted by rgreen on Fri, 14/03/03 - 4:04 AM Permalink

Challenge is going up now...