Dragonball Z Budokai

americans are stupid

well you see, as far as I'm aware Australians get the same version UK/Europe gets, since we both use PAL (rather than NTSC, the american/japanese format). and as you probably know translating games for Europe requires translation for many languages, such as German, French and Spanish. Recording speech for all those languages would not only be expensive and time consuming, but I'd like to see them fit it all on one disc(I'm no expert on sound compression and what not, so it might be easily done?).

So it's obvious that it's too much trouble to translate all those languages especially for such a budget game, so they simply leave the Japanese dialog as it is... of course, this doesn't explain why they couldn't just dump the American voices into the game and leave all the other languages out... so I'm stumped :)

This waste of time has been a Scrow production.

umm.. I think I prefer Americans are stupid :P

The reason fo this is becasue the average American market responds badly to voice acting that isn't done in English and with an American accent, as to why this is the case is anyones guess.

The reason I know this is because, before I got into games, I used to a lot of acting including voice work. One time I was doing some voice work for an american cartoon pitch and everyone was told at the start that they had to at least eliminate their accents and at most use American ones, otherwise the product just wont sell.

Pantmonger

I prefer things in their natural language, it's how they were meant to be. Also I hate that crappy America-style voice acting. They have done you a favor by leaving it as Japanese :)

Guys, I thankyou for replying yet it is a bit anoying redwyre when you are playing and you dont understand anything they say. Why couldn't they just keep it the way the american version is, turn it to PAL format and send it here, they could double their profits or even triple them.

I doubt changing the language to English or Animerican would double/triple sales.

Is PAL used in Japan as well as UK, Aus?
If it is I think it would make sense to only do the one version for PAL and one for NTSC, imagine the pain testing 3 different builds instead of 2?!

BTW Americans aren't stupid, they are just ignorant. [:P]

I could be wrong, but I think that Japan is NTSC. Thats why there has always been three stages of delivery from Japan.

Stage 1. Japan (some times the gamenever leaves)
Stage 2. Translate, but still NTSC, ship to USA.
Stage 3. If they can be bothered convert to PAL for Europe(and Australia).

Whee, this is why we miss out on a chunk of stuff from Japan. We are not part of a large enough cash pool to make it worth while for some games.

Pantmonger

Malus, I know you wrote that you doubt it would double or triple profits but if you think about it, it is true. Every person at my school said that (and I took a survey) that they would buy the game ifit was in English, even those who have already have the game in Japanese. And it is not only Dragonball Z Budokai, all the Dragonball Z games that have been released in America and Australia the Australian Versions have been in Japanese and the American have been in English. That sucks that we dont get all the games that America gets those, cheap asses! (My appologies to any American people out there, no offence)

Yes, Japan uses NTSC.
And Cloud, what people say, and what people do, are two different things :) Using the "english" version would (if at all) only increase profits in english speaking areas. Australia is insignificant, so they would only be looking at the english market. They would probably be weighing up whether english people would prefer to read english subtitles, or hear horrible american accents.
CYer, Blitz

ooooooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
whatever you people say I am still not convinced.
Why then they dont just bring out both versions, or better you put all languages onto just one game.
and stop going on about saying I didnt do the survey Blitz, I have a lot of free time.

The thing is the company responsable for producing this stuff would have a good market research department, thus if they think its not profitable, then its probably not profitable, school yard surveys asside.

Pantmonger

Cloud: Profits would increase but like Blitz said Australia is a small market so what we want won't generally matter, even if it quadrupled here it still wouldn't make much dent on the sales in general.

As for just adding all the languages in etc, well its not just a case of cut and paste, it takes many hours of labourous sweat and V drinking to get even the most basic things into a game and if its not going to be a huge profit why would they bother.

Yeah I thought it might be NTSC, just couldn't be bothered turning around and asking a coder. Lazy bugger. [:P]

I don't even like Dragonball Z, so I wouldn't care if shipped with italian voices, but if I did like it then the language wouldn't deter me from buying it, I buy films with subtitles, but some people need to hear bad dubbed voice acting I guess.

quote:Originally posted by Cloud

Guys, I thankyou for replying yet it is a bit anoying redwyre when you are playing and you dont understand anything they say.

Are you telling me it doesn't have subtitles?

Fine.
You people sure are persistant!
Then no more of this subject of why we dont have it in english.
Does anyone then know where I could purchase a copy in English and then we can shutup on this subject forever and move on.

if you want to buy the american version, try www.burn.com.au , they usually stock imports of most games

Cloud, i wasn't saying you didn't do the survey, i was saying that what people say on a survey ands what they would actually do can be two completely different things, especially in the case of minors.
CYer, Blitz

I mean that doesnt require going on the internet, buying it in a store.

Blitz, I did the survey in a high school.

I don't know many people at high school over the age of 18 :)
CYer, Blitz

quote:Originally posted by Blitz

I don't know many people at high school over the age of 18 :)
CYer, Blitz

Yeah but under 16 is a minor Blitz :P

Pantmonger

I think Blitz is just trying to get the point across that a few hundred high school students opinions in a survey aren't an accurate way to colerate buying trends.

But its good to see you actively care about the Australian gaming public Cloud. [:)]

I asked if we could get off this subject as even I am getting anoyed.
Just tell me where I can get it please and no more on what is considered a minor, I hate being called that!

quote:Originally posted by Cloud

no more on what is considered a minor, I hate being called that!

You are what you are[:p].

As for the US version of Dragonball Z Budokai it's NTSC version, if you own an Australian spec PS2 it will be PAL. I haven't imported any games since my PSone but i'm pretty sure an NTSC version game will play Black & White on a PAL system, unless you have a conveter of some sort.

Also imported games cost an arm and a leg, especially if they're hard to get or in high demand. Except in the case of pirate games but i'll assume your buying legit.

AFAIK, NTSC games won't play at all unless you have a modchip that will allow it. Then it will play fine as long as your TV (or video player) supports NTSC, which most do since the 90's. Otherwise, as camper said, you'll get a crappy B&W picture.
CYer, Blitz

I am not a minor Happy Camper!
Yes I have a NTSC Chip
Yes my TV can play NTSC Games and DVDs in colour
so can someone please tell me where I can get a copy got dammit!
(sorry for the language but this is getting frustrating. I just want to know where I can get it, nothing more!)

Whoa Cloud, take a chill pill,

Yes your not a minor so everyone please stop harping on about that as it obviously irritates him.

As for were to find a copy, well I'm guessing no one here knows if your not getting response, maybe try looking yourself, ring some suppliers, go to ebay, google it?

I don't know where to get it myself, sorry I can't help but getting angry isn't likely to get you much assistance.

Sorry Cloud i was just teasing.

Isn't there a new Dragonball game coming out anyway?

If you get real desprite maybe you could ask somewhere like Electronics Botique to order it in for you, i ask them to order me in a digital camera once but thats a little different because it wasn't imported and they had advertised it. My point is sometimes shops are willing to order stuff for you and since EB is American owned with an American web site that sells American games maybe it would be easier for them to get a copy.

Thanks for all your help guys. I have not found it yet but I think I should search somewhere else as all I seem to get here is babble (just kidding)Thankyou[:)]
And sorry if I seemed tense, I have had a couple of bad days.

Hope you find it man, I tried googling it for you but got nothing. Maybe EB is a good idea.

Try emailing these guys:
[url="game-info@gameswarehouse.com.au"]gameswarehouse[/url]

They may have it in stock or be able to get it.