Programming and Chicks?

I get nervous and start shaking uncontrollably whenever i get near a girl.
I don't think thats got anything to do with programming though, probably something to do with getting beaten up by girls when i was in grade 1 or something :P
CYer, Blitz

Hopefully this doesn't lead to us opening up a "Sumea Personals" forum ;->

I called in some expert assistance to answer this one (ie my wife). Her comment? "As long as you think of it as 'picking up chicks', you won't" :-)

Personally, I'd say drop the "chicks" tag and think about the actual implications of what you're saying when you label a woman as a "chick". Cute, small animal with barely a brain cell? The respect is just dripping off that description... Not :)

Occupation is irrelevant once you meet the right person, IMO. If you want a real relationship just toss out the crap that society feeds us, and be yourself :) People are much more interesting when they are passionate about things in their life rather than constantly trying to adapt themselves to what they imagine everyone else expects of them.

Cheers,

Mark

Hinder IMHO.

Whenever I get asked what I'm studying, I say "Engineering" and crap-on from there :)

Well my fiance and I are both gamers, were as bad as each other, fighting, pushing and shoving to see who can get to EB first etc, or be first to get the 'cumfy' chair when playing a bit of Champions of Norrath.

I dont really think being a gamer or interested in games really makes that much of a difference anymore, but it definately did in the beginning as I met her at uni whilst studying for my DIP.

I have had 3 previous girlfriends, and the first 2 basically said " ITS ME OR THE PLAYSTATION! " ... so ... i just curled up with my ps1 controller, and said " BAH! Dont make me choose !! you evil , EVIL being!! " the third however was a bit more recieving, even had a bit of a streak there where I thought I was onto a successful non-nerd to nerd conversion. But alas it was not meant to be.

I didnt have any gamer related problems attracting members of the opposite sex, it was more of a " Oh my god you play games ? you nerd ! Pffffffffff good bye " problem.

/end of of Hazard's 'This is your life' episode.

HazarD, you?re a lucky man! Oh, to find a woman that understands?
My previous girlfriends/dates have mostly considered the games thing to be overly geeky, but then I consider the gay pop/dance music that some of them were into a million times worse.[:P]

As far a programming goes, I think it depends on the girl or ?chick?. If they are young and dumb (i.e. a chick) then you?ll probably be labelled a geek, but if they have a brain (like all the good ones) then I think it might help put you into the intelligent category ? but that?s only first impressions. Once a couple get to know each other, I don?t think it really matters what you study or work as.

Then again, that?s just my experience. I?m no romance guru! [:P]

Looking back onto this now it was a mistake to use the word 'chicks' :-

I have to mention that at University in Computer Science when I started there were maybe a couple of girls doing the subjects, compared to several hundred guys. However there seems to be a higher concentration of girls starting computer science subjects this year. This might seem to indicate that computers are becoming more mainstream?

Thought I doubt that it will help our chances of finding someone that is "compatible"...

something really shocked me and my fiance both yesterday, we were in the city store of EB, and a couple of young girls, about 18 - 20 at a guess, dressed quite funky and fashionably entered the shop.

Things are definately on the change - these wernt the stereotypical glasses wearing nerd-girls either, they looked and appeared just ordinary averager teenager 'hip' sorta young woman.

It was quite the odd culture shock ( and very apparent ) for many of the young men in the store, to see 2 good looking young females talking and rummaging through the stacks of games, sounding exactly like any hardened gamer would, speaking of gameplay elements in the various RPGS and FPS's they were picking up etc.

programming tends not to be a female friendly disipline (IMHO)

Unfortunatly a. you have mostly males b. the males tend to like to do things the 'interesting' way, rather than what may be correctly sugested by a female as a 'practical' way, so the males get pissed off, make the femalaes work less comfortable, and she leaves.... and c. most programmers smell, and females (and some males) may tend not to like that. //not to generalise/ start flame war, but that is my impression, and the impression given to me by several females, so of which where programmers.

Daemin, if you want chicks, take up salsa dancing or an arts course/ language... again, IMHO (or i should realy type, in my not so humble opinion)

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there is one girl doing the Bachelor of Computing this year, and she was asked why she was doing it and she just said, to get a job. she had never played a video game before she started the course!

as for picking up girls, I dont really think it matters, as long as you be yourself...

I totally disagree with you david!
Females can code fine, they just have to want to.
And I dunno what programmers you hang around, but I don't know any that smell.

Here's my take on all this:
Because programmers aren't so popular, you'll probably have to get to know a girl first before you get a chance to go out. The easiest way to get to know someone is to work with them, but as there are not many female programmers around, you will have to find some other way to meet women. So in that regard, it hurts your chances unless you get out an make an effort.

I took up programming to pick up chicks!

I agree with Redwyre about programming. It is not unfriendly to women and we can do it just fine. I think the major issue is that programming is not being presented as a career option to girls thus they do not realise it. Also, when I did my TAFE programming stuff half the course was female. So there is a big difference between specialised (games) and standard (business apps) in terms of women and career opportunities.

I do agree with Dave on actually getting out there to meet girls. You are not going to find them sitting in your house playing LAN games with your buddies at 3am (unless of course you start looking at mail order brides). You do actually need to get out and do things to meet people.

well, you never know, playing LAN games at 3am, the girls might suddenly start falling out of the ceiling.

Hello Redwyre, good to know that you don't know any proggramers that smell, i know too many. (though my own 'do i pass the smell test?, oh, better have a shower before going to work' test in the morning is not fool proof, or at least not proof of this fool)

salsa dancing is fun though, helps a lot with animating :)

The fact I refer to all women as 'booth babes' may have something to do with my bachelor status.

That, and I'm not a programmer!!

You mean, carrying a C++ manual in my back pack won't increase my chances with the ladies! What the! [:(!]

Souri: Depends which ladies you are after.... (and damned if I'll let you keep 'em)

Just for the record ladies, I keep a copy of the C standard library reference in my bag at all times... for "emergencies".

Daemin, daemin, daemin. I sure hope you haven't been using your 'games programming' status to try and impress the ladies :)

Personally, I think the only problem with being a games programmer is the fact that alot of your colleagues are also male...so unless you are gay (no can of worms intended here) you aren't exactly going to hook up with anyone from your workplace... :(

As for this whole 'chicks'-rage...women change their mind all the time, call 'em ladies and they reckon you are labelling them as old, call 'em girls and they think you are referring to a little kid, call 'em women and suddenly you are labelling them as some kind of middle-aged mum, call 'em females and you are some kind of odd-ball. SO yeah, you are all chicks/girls/ladies/women/females/lassies whatever. It's better than some other names people use for de women.

Lastly, my one and only relationship failed utterly so I'm not going to offer any advice for how to meet Ms/Miss/Mrs (hah! See can never make up their minds!) Right - because I can't say I've ever had any experience there myself.

Daemin - what's your advice for how to pick up chicks?

Aside from alcohol....(ahhhhh I am so mean in the afternoon) :P

perhaps we should make a Sumea Singles forum for all us programmers? [;)]

quote:Originally posted by Maitrek

As for this whole 'chicks'-rage...women change their mind all the time, call 'em ladies and they reckon you are labelling them as old, call 'em girls and they think you are referring to a little kid, call 'em women and suddenly you are labelling them as some kind of middle-aged mum, call 'em females and you are some kind of odd-ball. SO yeah, you are all chicks/girls/ladies/women/females/lassies whatever. It's better than some other names people use for de women.

HAHA! I'm sorry, it's just so funny that you mention that, as I have recently spoken to 2 separate guys from different companies that haven't known what to call me! Seriously, I really don't think too many girls worry what they are called as long as it isn't rude!

As for picking up chicks.... It really has nothing to do with being a programmer... Just try and be nice, natural, funny (in a non nerdy way!) and make friends with girls, we won't bite! (unless you want us to of course [:0])

I can only be funny in a nerdy way ^.-
CYer, Blitz

quote:HAHA! I'm sorry, it's just so funny that you mention that, as I have recently spoken to 2 separate guys from different companies that haven't known what to call me! Seriously, I really don't think too many girls worry what they are called as long as it isn't rude!My sentiments exactly :)

quote: I can only be funny in a nerdy way ^.-Yeah, I'm stuck there too Blitz.

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I've had girls bite me, it hurts!

As for advice, I dunno, be yourself, but don't talk too much is about all I can come up with...

Reading the ladder article thing now...

I just thinks it's absolutely hilarious this is even a thread of discussion.

daemin, the challenge is to get the girl to talk about herself, if you can get her to do that for and extended period of time, you get to be called a 'good listener'.... just add some 'un huns' and a few questions, just don't offer solutions to problems, she might just be looking for sympathy/ empathy

Right then, when?s the Sumea dating challenge # 1 start??? [:D]

Haha! Now thats a good idea! [;)]

lol

that's the worst idea I've ever heard :P

I think some of the married developers on here would have won that one already :-P

Aven might dress up as a girl and trick one of you fella's [:P] better watch out!

quote: I think some of the married developers on here would have won that one already :-P
No, your not allowed to use any pre-existing work ? it must all be done originally for the challenge [:P]

So to start off from an equal footing we're all going to quit work, stop excercise, and bum around for two weeks growing beardy stubble and a pot belly while absorbing ourselves in programming knowledge?

Erhm, somehow I don't think so.