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Submitted by bullet21 on

I live in melbourne and i am about to go into year 11. I've been trying to ask around for work experiance in this area (3D modelling, Animating) does anyone know of any places that take students for Work experiance. All help is appreciated

Submitted by souri on Sat, 24/01/04 - 1:46 AM Permalink

None that I know of, unfortunately. Do a search in the forum for work experience threads, and you'll come up with the reasons why. It's worth sending a message to the developers yourself to see if they do offer it now, just in case.

Submitted by tbag on Sun, 25/01/04 - 3:30 AM Permalink

I must admit getting work experience with a games company would be hard.

Think of it this way. They could be making a secret game/project and you help them a bit. But once the experience is over you know about the secret game/project (Which could cause Chaos) and you helped them on it for few weeks but then the company is not sure if it is possible to include you in the credits due to the amount of work you did (Although i would presume they would include you!).

Thats just my thoughts of why it might be hard, but eh? Prove me wrong [:)].

Submitted by Pantmonger on Sun, 25/01/04 - 7:33 PM Permalink

Also you must remember that work experience is commonly perceived of as an activity you do without pay to get experience.

In Australia it is illegal to have someone do work for no money unless you are a non profit community organization. This cuts into the amount of work experience jobs out there, for obvious reasons.

Pantmonger

Submitted by Blitz on Sun, 25/01/04 - 11:06 PM Permalink

*Looks around* Shhhhhhhhh.
There is however, no specified minimum amount that needs to be paid for work experience afaik. When i was in school there seemed to be a standard amount of $5/day which is obviously nowhere near minimum wage or anything :) Money is not the problem with placing work experience.
Time is the problem. Generally companies just don't have the manpower (time) to spare to have someone in their offices asking questions etc. and preventing other employees from getting their work done answering said questions etc. Having someone doing work experience for a week will likely cost the company a weeks worth of work from one person...particularly if they are not very experienced.
CYer, Blitz

Submitted by J I Styles on Mon, 26/01/04 - 1:22 AM Permalink

Most companies don't have spare work stations lying around with over $10,000 plus worth of software and hardware for people to jump on and use; so in this situation the alternative would be to assign you to someone, and you look over their shoulder, maybe now and then do something, but more likely be their coffee boy. Umm... coffee boy... I like the sound of that, interested in coming to Brisbane for a little while, I could do with some more coffee now and then *grins*

Submitted by bullet21 on Mon, 26/01/04 - 5:04 AM Permalink

I dont care about the money i just want to find out what goes on behind the scenes first hand. JI trust me mate if i lived in Brisbane i would love to be your coffee boy but unforunately i live in Melbourne. If you ever move down here then please keep me in mind if you still need a coffee boy.

Submitted by bullet21 on Sun, 01/02/04 - 9:12 PM Permalink

Yay, it looks like i did the immpossible. After sending a letter to every games developer in Melbourne i have confirmed a spot with Wicked Witch Software in Boronia. Does anyone here work there?

Submitted by MoonUnit on Sun, 01/02/04 - 9:56 PM Permalink

wow remember to tell us all about it, our school was going to do work experience but then some law changed or something or other and were not doing it anymore, that would be awesome

Submitted by J I Styles on Sun, 01/02/04 - 11:06 PM Permalink

Great job bullet - I look forward to hearing about your experiance. It's a fairly rare occurance, so I'm very interested in how it goes [:)]

Submitted by bullet21 on Mon, 02/02/04 - 6:40 AM Permalink

Well its in June so there is a while yet, but when i do do it i will let u all know how it goes, I'll be braggin about it for weeks. It's gonna kick arse, I hope i learn a lot from the people there.

Submitted by Blitz on Mon, 02/02/04 - 10:15 AM Permalink

it's spelled experience :)
And good luck with your woek EXPERIENCE at WW. I'm sure they'll squeeze their $5 a day out of you :)
CYer, Blitz

Submitted by Pantmonger on Mon, 02/02/04 - 6:52 PM Permalink

quote:woek

It's spelt "Irony" [^]

Pantmonger

Submitted by Daemin on Mon, 02/02/04 - 11:37 PM Permalink

I remember the people at r3 Interactive talking about having Work Experience kids there, only that the kids were like: "now teach me to use 3ds max and all that", just keep in mind that Work Experience will be work, rather than learning, although you'll be learning how it is to work...

BTW for the record I kinda stuffed up my stint of work experience in Year 10.

Submitted by Red 5 on Tue, 03/02/04 - 12:55 AM Permalink

quote:Originally posted by bullet21

Does anyone here work there?

I've worked with those guy's in the past at other companies, great guy's to work with... expect a lot of laughs :)

Submitted by Malus on Tue, 03/02/04 - 7:15 AM Permalink

Pants/Blitz:

Blitz also hammered the grammar. lol [:P]

quote:"it's spelled experience"

Submitted by Blitz on Tue, 03/02/04 - 10:17 AM Permalink

Oh geez, i feel crushed now :(
Haha, i just didn't want the poor guy typing experience wrong on any application letters (experiance is fairly obviously a spelling error) and you guys complain about typos (e is next to r) and not starting sentences with capital letters !!! hehe :)
CYer, Blitz

Submitted by bullet21 on Fri, 26/03/04 - 10:53 PM Permalink

well i went to wicked witch to get some forms signed for my work experiance, and i officially cannot wait to till june. This is whne my work experiance is. It is a small but cosy studio. They have arcade machines everywhere. I only met Daniel Visser and one programer (whose name i didn't catch) but dan seems like a very cool and funny guy. I will be doing game testing and also art.

Dear lord,

Please make the world spin faster and then slow it down heaps from June 14th til the 19th.

Amen

Submitted by Red 5 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 12:11 AM Permalink

Hope you like 70's disco music ;) hahahaha

Submitted by Kane on Sat, 27/03/04 - 1:29 AM Permalink

well bullet, you are one lucky son-of-a-...

good luck i bet you'll have a ball![:D]

Submitted by Red 5 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 5:02 AM Permalink

I used to work with him many moons ago, great guy, you'll have a ball :)

Submitted by FireFlight on Sat, 27/03/04 - 9:39 AM Permalink

Good Luck to ya Bullet. If only there were some developers on the Gold Coast, and I didn't have Rugby League. Suppose I could ask some Brisbane ones, knowing my luck though they would say yes and I would have to go away somewhere. I want to be a modeller and my drawing skills suck. I guess i'll have to be a programmer [:p] or I could just read lots "How to Draw" books.

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 7:44 PM Permalink

I can't draw for crap, but still that don't mean you can't model. Most the developers turned me down. I sent an email to every developer and wicked witch were the only ones to even bother replying. They also get back to me almost instantly.

Submitted by FireFlight on Sat, 27/03/04 - 10:00 PM Permalink

Thats a good of them to reply quickly. Hope you have fun, oh and I suppose with modelling as long as you know what you want it to look like you can edit it to that. Why computers are beter than paper for me.

Submitted by codyalday on Fri, 21/05/04 - 9:04 PM Permalink

I have work experince too this year, do you think there are still positions there Bullet, because I would really love to work in some Game Development Company.

Submitted by bullet21 on Mon, 24/05/04 - 6:03 PM Permalink

I dont know just try email them. They are a small studio though. But good luck to ya!

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 19/06/04 - 10:33 PM Permalink

It start this monday, man i'm excited!

tell you all how it goes, day by day.

Submitted by bullet21 on Tue, 22/06/04 - 5:58 AM Permalink

Well first day, i was a bit late, 1 hour to be precise.Stupid god forsaken public transport. But anyway when i did get there it was nothing but fun. I went in and the first hing they did was set up a PC for me. Then after that i just went on doing what they told me to.

First i just bummed around in max 5 for a while. Then they actually let me create some content for a mobile phone game they are making. I never knew pixel pushing could be so much fun. Anyway, that was about it and there were 4 other kids doin work experiance there as well.

Tommorrow is another day :D

Submitted by Kalescent on Wed, 23/06/04 - 10:48 AM Permalink

Keep us posted with your experiences Bullet21! [:D]

Submitted by bullet21 on Wed, 23/06/04 - 6:15 PM Permalink

Yesterday was just a buming around day for me, daniel forgot one of the passwords to the machine and i just played games over the network with the other guys working there most the time. I won Quake 3 once then i got arses raped in generals.

Posted by bullet21 on

I live in melbourne and i am about to go into year 11. I've been trying to ask around for work experiance in this area (3D modelling, Animating) does anyone know of any places that take students for Work experiance. All help is appreciated


Submitted by souri on Sat, 24/01/04 - 1:46 AM Permalink

None that I know of, unfortunately. Do a search in the forum for work experience threads, and you'll come up with the reasons why. It's worth sending a message to the developers yourself to see if they do offer it now, just in case.

Submitted by tbag on Sun, 25/01/04 - 3:30 AM Permalink

I must admit getting work experience with a games company would be hard.

Think of it this way. They could be making a secret game/project and you help them a bit. But once the experience is over you know about the secret game/project (Which could cause Chaos) and you helped them on it for few weeks but then the company is not sure if it is possible to include you in the credits due to the amount of work you did (Although i would presume they would include you!).

Thats just my thoughts of why it might be hard, but eh? Prove me wrong [:)].

Submitted by Pantmonger on Sun, 25/01/04 - 7:33 PM Permalink

Also you must remember that work experience is commonly perceived of as an activity you do without pay to get experience.

In Australia it is illegal to have someone do work for no money unless you are a non profit community organization. This cuts into the amount of work experience jobs out there, for obvious reasons.

Pantmonger

Submitted by Blitz on Sun, 25/01/04 - 11:06 PM Permalink

*Looks around* Shhhhhhhhh.
There is however, no specified minimum amount that needs to be paid for work experience afaik. When i was in school there seemed to be a standard amount of $5/day which is obviously nowhere near minimum wage or anything :) Money is not the problem with placing work experience.
Time is the problem. Generally companies just don't have the manpower (time) to spare to have someone in their offices asking questions etc. and preventing other employees from getting their work done answering said questions etc. Having someone doing work experience for a week will likely cost the company a weeks worth of work from one person...particularly if they are not very experienced.
CYer, Blitz

Submitted by J I Styles on Mon, 26/01/04 - 1:22 AM Permalink

Most companies don't have spare work stations lying around with over $10,000 plus worth of software and hardware for people to jump on and use; so in this situation the alternative would be to assign you to someone, and you look over their shoulder, maybe now and then do something, but more likely be their coffee boy. Umm... coffee boy... I like the sound of that, interested in coming to Brisbane for a little while, I could do with some more coffee now and then *grins*

Submitted by bullet21 on Mon, 26/01/04 - 5:04 AM Permalink

I dont care about the money i just want to find out what goes on behind the scenes first hand. JI trust me mate if i lived in Brisbane i would love to be your coffee boy but unforunately i live in Melbourne. If you ever move down here then please keep me in mind if you still need a coffee boy.

Submitted by bullet21 on Sun, 01/02/04 - 9:12 PM Permalink

Yay, it looks like i did the immpossible. After sending a letter to every games developer in Melbourne i have confirmed a spot with Wicked Witch Software in Boronia. Does anyone here work there?

Submitted by MoonUnit on Sun, 01/02/04 - 9:56 PM Permalink

wow remember to tell us all about it, our school was going to do work experience but then some law changed or something or other and were not doing it anymore, that would be awesome

Submitted by J I Styles on Sun, 01/02/04 - 11:06 PM Permalink

Great job bullet - I look forward to hearing about your experiance. It's a fairly rare occurance, so I'm very interested in how it goes [:)]

Submitted by bullet21 on Mon, 02/02/04 - 6:40 AM Permalink

Well its in June so there is a while yet, but when i do do it i will let u all know how it goes, I'll be braggin about it for weeks. It's gonna kick arse, I hope i learn a lot from the people there.

Submitted by Blitz on Mon, 02/02/04 - 10:15 AM Permalink

it's spelled experience :)
And good luck with your woek EXPERIENCE at WW. I'm sure they'll squeeze their $5 a day out of you :)
CYer, Blitz

Submitted by Pantmonger on Mon, 02/02/04 - 6:52 PM Permalink

quote:woek

It's spelt "Irony" [^]

Pantmonger

Submitted by Daemin on Mon, 02/02/04 - 11:37 PM Permalink

I remember the people at r3 Interactive talking about having Work Experience kids there, only that the kids were like: "now teach me to use 3ds max and all that", just keep in mind that Work Experience will be work, rather than learning, although you'll be learning how it is to work...

BTW for the record I kinda stuffed up my stint of work experience in Year 10.

Submitted by Red 5 on Tue, 03/02/04 - 12:55 AM Permalink

quote:Originally posted by bullet21

Does anyone here work there?

I've worked with those guy's in the past at other companies, great guy's to work with... expect a lot of laughs :)

Submitted by Malus on Tue, 03/02/04 - 7:15 AM Permalink

Pants/Blitz:

Blitz also hammered the grammar. lol [:P]

quote:"it's spelled experience"

Submitted by Blitz on Tue, 03/02/04 - 10:17 AM Permalink

Oh geez, i feel crushed now :(
Haha, i just didn't want the poor guy typing experience wrong on any application letters (experiance is fairly obviously a spelling error) and you guys complain about typos (e is next to r) and not starting sentences with capital letters !!! hehe :)
CYer, Blitz

Submitted by bullet21 on Fri, 26/03/04 - 10:53 PM Permalink

well i went to wicked witch to get some forms signed for my work experiance, and i officially cannot wait to till june. This is whne my work experiance is. It is a small but cosy studio. They have arcade machines everywhere. I only met Daniel Visser and one programer (whose name i didn't catch) but dan seems like a very cool and funny guy. I will be doing game testing and also art.

Dear lord,

Please make the world spin faster and then slow it down heaps from June 14th til the 19th.

Amen

Submitted by Red 5 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 12:11 AM Permalink

Hope you like 70's disco music ;) hahahaha

Submitted by Kane on Sat, 27/03/04 - 1:29 AM Permalink

well bullet, you are one lucky son-of-a-...

good luck i bet you'll have a ball![:D]

Submitted by Red 5 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 5:02 AM Permalink

I used to work with him many moons ago, great guy, you'll have a ball :)

Submitted by FireFlight on Sat, 27/03/04 - 9:39 AM Permalink

Good Luck to ya Bullet. If only there were some developers on the Gold Coast, and I didn't have Rugby League. Suppose I could ask some Brisbane ones, knowing my luck though they would say yes and I would have to go away somewhere. I want to be a modeller and my drawing skills suck. I guess i'll have to be a programmer [:p] or I could just read lots "How to Draw" books.

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 27/03/04 - 7:44 PM Permalink

I can't draw for crap, but still that don't mean you can't model. Most the developers turned me down. I sent an email to every developer and wicked witch were the only ones to even bother replying. They also get back to me almost instantly.

Submitted by FireFlight on Sat, 27/03/04 - 10:00 PM Permalink

Thats a good of them to reply quickly. Hope you have fun, oh and I suppose with modelling as long as you know what you want it to look like you can edit it to that. Why computers are beter than paper for me.

Submitted by codyalday on Fri, 21/05/04 - 9:04 PM Permalink

I have work experince too this year, do you think there are still positions there Bullet, because I would really love to work in some Game Development Company.

Submitted by bullet21 on Mon, 24/05/04 - 6:03 PM Permalink

I dont know just try email them. They are a small studio though. But good luck to ya!

Submitted by bullet21 on Sat, 19/06/04 - 10:33 PM Permalink

It start this monday, man i'm excited!

tell you all how it goes, day by day.

Submitted by bullet21 on Tue, 22/06/04 - 5:58 AM Permalink

Well first day, i was a bit late, 1 hour to be precise.Stupid god forsaken public transport. But anyway when i did get there it was nothing but fun. I went in and the first hing they did was set up a PC for me. Then after that i just went on doing what they told me to.

First i just bummed around in max 5 for a while. Then they actually let me create some content for a mobile phone game they are making. I never knew pixel pushing could be so much fun. Anyway, that was about it and there were 4 other kids doin work experiance there as well.

Tommorrow is another day :D

Submitted by Kalescent on Wed, 23/06/04 - 10:48 AM Permalink

Keep us posted with your experiences Bullet21! [:D]

Submitted by bullet21 on Wed, 23/06/04 - 6:15 PM Permalink

Yesterday was just a buming around day for me, daniel forgot one of the passwords to the machine and i just played games over the network with the other guys working there most the time. I won Quake 3 once then i got arses raped in generals.